Mirror image Pointless?

Holy Knight Delita · 01-04-2002, 11:04 AM

Everytime some pansy mage attacks my group they alway cast mirror-image on themselves. What good is it. You can still tell which ones real, and easily kill him, does it do anything of importance? it confuses me when they do it and it just makes me want to kill them more!

JR Jansen · 01-04-2002, 11:09 AM

You can still attack the mage but whenever you hit him/her, one of the mirror images disappear. Bassicaly when a mage casts it, you have to hit that mage as often as he has images of himself before you can actually do damage. It's actually one of the best defensive spells a mage has in BG.

J'aran · 01-04-2002, 11:12 AM

YOU may still be able to tell which image is real, but your character can't, if you understand my meaning. In BG1/TotSC, as long as so much as one fake image is still there, the real one can't be hit by melee or missile weapons. Not sure about spells, but Mirror Image certainly isn't useless. It's IMHO the best defensive spell in the game. Things are different in SoA/ToB of course, but that's another story.

Iluvatar Oakenshield · 01-04-2002, 06:46 PM

Not to mention the fact that a mage can walk through a lot of traps while mirror imaged without getting damage -> great for soloing

Scholarcs · 01-04-2002, 07:56 PM

It is a good defensive spell to use, it means your mage cant have his/her spells interupted by being attacked, and it also means that the enemy cant make a successful meelee attack for a while.

A good way of getting rid of it is using magic missile, because each ball dispells one image.

Midget Gems · 01-05-2002, 10:38 AM

I agree with what Scholarcs is saying. If ever I see an enemy mage cast Mirror Image on himself, I immediately attack with Magic Missiles to kill the images, before he can cast his next spell, which is usually something nasty. I also found that a simple spell like Command Word can knock over an enemy mage for just enough time to allow my archers to get rid of his mirror images. It's kind of fun to see a row of mages lying down for a rest! I also remember having a good laugh when someone tried to cast Lighting Bolt on my mirrored Mage - the rebounds took down 2 or 3 of my images but the enemy killed himself - c'est le vie!

One thing I did quite a lot with Garrick (the useless Bard) was to remove his armour, cast Mirror Image and then put his armour back on. This way he stayed alive long enough to contribute something to the battle.

Does anyone know if there is a list of which spells hit the images as opposed to those that ignore the images and effect the spellcaster? It would be quite helpful to know this.

01-05-2002, 11:06 AM

its a very good spell Delita! use it well. P.S. I pmed you, don't know if you got it or not

J'aran · 01-05-2002, 11:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Midget Gems:
Does anyone know if there is a list of which spells hit the images as opposed to those that ignore the images and effect the spellcaster? It would be quite helpful to know this.

I don't know if there's a list, but from my experience spells that do direct damage like Magic Missile, Flame Arrow etc. hit the images first and non-damaging spells like Charm, Polymorph Other and the like ignore the images. Non-hostile spells (Haste, Polymorph Self et al) also ignore the images. Only I'm not quite certain about area-effect damage spells like Fireball or Cloud Kill, but I think those bypass the images. At least that would be logical.

SixOfSpades · 01-05-2002, 12:50 PM

I keep forgetting if Fireball will hurt the central Mage or not--actually, my #1 spell against Mirror Image is Dispel Magic. [img]smile.gif[/img]

"Davaeorn? Who.....who's Davaeorn?"

Scholarcs · 01-06-2002, 03:57 AM

I think fireball doesnt affect the mage, but it does affect the images. But I am not sure, will have to try it out. I think the mage loses one image for each successful attack by the fireball (save vs. spells for half) so it is either losing 1 or 2 images.
But I am not completely sure, check it out.

01-04-2002, 11:09 AM	#2
JR Jansen Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: May 31, 2001 Location: Mol (Belgium) Posts: 658	You can still attack the mage but whenever you hit him/her, one of the mirror images disappear. Bassicaly when a mage casts it, you have to hit that mage as often as he has images of himself before you can actually do damage. It's actually one of the best defensive spells a mage has in BG. __________________ JR<p>Damned i lost cousin Jan\'s techno gloves<p>Forest runner and first gnomish demiranger-protector with slightly rougueish tendencies and a natural dislike for Aerie

01-04-2002, 06:46 PM	#4
Iluvatar Oakenshield Manshoon Join Date: January 3, 2002 Location: The Mighty Netherlands Age: 46 Posts: 195	Not to mention the fact that a mage can walk through a lot of traps while mirror imaged without getting damage -> great for soloing __________________ "Wherever she dwells I will bid a farewell sigh For she dwells with beauty - beauty that must die And deep inside me I will wait for her return To her enchanting, awe-inspiring flame I'll yearn O lust and rueful thought be mine, My soul enhanced, desires... Melancholy. My heart is thine." Schwadorf, Empyrium '97

01-05-2002, 10:38 AM	#6
Midget Gems Avatar Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 34 Posts: 568	I agree with what Scholarcs is saying. If ever I see an enemy mage cast Mirror Image on himself, I immediately attack with Magic Missiles to kill the images, before he can cast his next spell, which is usually something nasty. I also found that a simple spell like Command Word can knock over an enemy mage for just enough time to allow my archers to get rid of his mirror images. It's kind of fun to see a row of mages lying down for a rest! I also remember having a good laugh when someone tried to cast Lighting Bolt on my mirrored Mage - the rebounds took down 2 or 3 of my images but the enemy killed himself - c'est le vie! One thing I did quite a lot with Garrick (the useless Bard) was to remove his armour, cast Mirror Image and then put his armour back on. This way he stayed alive long enough to contribute something to the battle. Does anyone know if there is a list of which spells hit the images as opposed to those that ignore the images and effect the spellcaster? It would be quite helpful to know this. __________________ Midget Gems - Heroes in their own lunch time and creator of the Suicidal Gnomes.

01-05-2002, 11:27 AM	#8
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 46 Posts: 1,493	quote: Originally posted by Midget Gems: Does anyone know if there is a list of which spells hit the images as opposed to those that ignore the images and effect the spellcaster? It would be quite helpful to know this. I don't know if there's a list, but from my experience spells that do direct damage like Magic Missile, Flame Arrow etc. hit the images first and non-damaging spells like Charm, Polymorph Other and the like ignore the images. Non-hostile spells (Haste, Polymorph Self et al) also ignore the images. Only I'm not quite certain about area-effect damage spells like Fireball or Cloud Kill, but I think those bypass the images. At least that would be logical.

01-05-2002, 12:50 PM	#9
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	I keep forgetting if Fireball will hurt the central Mage or not--actually, my #1 spell against Mirror Image is Dispel Magic. [img]smile.gif[/img] "Davaeorn? Who.....who's Davaeorn?" __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

01-04-2002, 11:04 AM	#1
Holy Knight Delita Manshoon Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Michigan, United States Age: 38 Posts: 233	Everytime some pansy mage attacks my group they alway cast mirror-image on themselves. What good is it. You can still tell which ones real, and easily kill him, does it do anything of importance? it confuses me when they do it and it just makes me want to kill them more! __________________ \"Me and you are caught up in the same flow... I\'m just swimming against it\" -Delita Hyral-<br />\"All mortal men are destined to die, but death cannot kill their names.\" -Icelandic Proverb-

01-04-2002, 11:12 AM	#3
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 46 Posts: 1,493	YOU may still be able to tell which image is real, but your character can't, if you understand my meaning. In BG1/TotSC, as long as so much as one fake image is still there, the real one can't be hit by melee or missile weapons. Not sure about spells, but Mirror Image certainly isn't useless. It's IMHO the best defensive spell in the game. Things are different in SoA/ToB of course, but that's another story.

01-04-2002, 07:56 PM	#5
Scholarcs Red Dragon Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 39 Posts: 1,557	It is a good defensive spell to use, it means your mage cant have his/her spells interupted by being attacked, and it also means that the enemy cant make a successful meelee attack for a while. A good way of getting rid of it is using magic missile, because each ball dispells one image.

01-05-2002, 11:06 AM	#7
SecretMaster Guest Posts: n/a	its a very good spell Delita! use it well. P.S. I pmed you, don't know if you got it or not

01-06-2002, 03:57 AM	#10
Scholarcs Red Dragon Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 39 Posts: 1,557	I think fireball doesnt affect the mage, but it does affect the images. But I am not sure, will have to try it out. I think the mage loses one image for each successful attack by the fireball (save vs. spells for half) so it is either losing 1 or 2 images. But I am not completely sure, check it out.

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