Omigod! Greater deathblow rules!

Dirty Meg · 07-14-2004, 12:59 AM

Under the influence of an oil of speed and greater deathblow, my PC archer took down six glazarebu, a succubus and a drow in two rounds!

Hank Parsons · 07-14-2004, 03:51 PM

Hmmm. A lot of people put down Greater Deathblow, maybe just cuz the prereq's for it aren't so great. Good to hear it works well, I'll have to try it. How about "Assassinate"? That's another one that I have heard is not good, but, I think it would be good with a dual-weilding F/T with multiple attacks per round.

Lord · 07-14-2004, 05:01 PM

Greater Deathblow can kill Mind Flayers in 1 hit too [img]smile.gif[/img]

If you want to make some more use out of Assassination, use improved haste first. A F/M/T can use improved alacrity, then use GWW and Assassination together for a great attack. This can't be done with out the improved alacrity.

JrKASperov · 07-14-2004, 05:14 PM

Guess what Lord, that cannot be done, and there are two reasons for it: [img]tongue.gif[/img]

1. F/M/T do NOT get any wizard HLA except for bonusspells
2. F/M/T don't even get lvl 9 spells at the XP cap

[img]tongue.gif[/img]

To get everything you need from assassination, I suggest making some fighter/thief dual class with grandmastery in some weapon and using Belm or Kundane in the offhand. Then use Improved Haste, then apply Assassination. Wammo, 1000+ damage if you are playing the right way

Leslie · 07-14-2004, 05:19 PM

To put some parmesan on these ideas: don't forget to put a time trap (if possible) or read a time stop scroll (with UAI) before. That will guarantee that every swing also hits.

I once had a Kensai/Thief dualled at level 21. You don't want to know what happened in the suggested scenario.

JrKASperov · 07-14-2004, 05:23 PM

'KAI!'

*carnage*

Dirty Meg · 07-16-2004, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Parsons:
Hmmm. A lot of people put down Greater Deathblow, maybe just cuz the prereq's for it aren't so great. Good to hear it works well, I'll have to try it. How about "Assassinate"? That's another one that I have heard is not good, but, I think it would be good with a dual-weilding F/T with multiple attacks per round.

Greater deathblow is not good for melee weapons, because they can't hit enough enemies in the space of time to make it worthwhile. With archers, who don't need to walk between opponents wasting valuble time, it can be very useful. Assassinate is good only if you have a decent THAC0 and lots of attacks. If your character can get in lots of hits it's a killer. If not, an extra trap would be better.

JrKASperov · 07-16-2004, 01:16 PM

Since only high level fighters will get this I don't think you'll have to worry about thac0 or number of attacks [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Dace De'Briago · 07-16-2004, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie:
To put some parmesan on these ideas: don't forget to put a time trap (if possible) or read a time stop scroll (with UAI) before. That will guarantee that every swing also hits.

I once had a Kensai/Thief dualled at level 21. You don't want to know what happened in the suggested scenario.

I think you can get a Kensai L21/Thief 28?

Yes, that is a rather mean combo

Megachihuahua · 07-16-2004, 03:10 PM

Assasanite sucks
with Jan
Because
his armor is impervious to
normal weapons
and anything with magic weapons
probably can't be killed by assaninate
so Jan dies.
'You must spread some spam around before posting in this thread again'

07-14-2004, 12:59 AM	#1
Dirty Meg Baaz Draconian Join Date: May 21, 2004 Location: Here, or there abouts. Age: 80 Posts: 703	Under the influence of an oil of speed and greater deathblow, my PC archer took down six glazarebu, a succubus and a drow in two rounds! __________________ A stitch in time is worth two in the bush.

07-14-2004, 03:51 PM	#2
Hank Parsons Zhentarim Guard Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: Georgia Age: 49 Posts: 357	Hmmm. A lot of people put down Greater Deathblow, maybe just cuz the prereq's for it aren't so great. Good to hear it works well, I'll have to try it. How about "Assassinate"? That's another one that I have heard is not good, but, I think it would be good with a dual-weilding F/T with multiple attacks per round. __________________ <b>[url]\"http://www.boomspeed.com/colbruce/bg2.html\" target=\"_blank\"><i>BG2 Multiplayer Online Help & Info</a></i></b>

07-14-2004, 05:01 PM	#3
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 40 Posts: 3,302	Greater Deathblow can kill Mind Flayers in 1 hit too [img]smile.gif[/img] If you want to make some more use out of Assassination, use improved haste first. A F/M/T can use improved alacrity, then use GWW and Assassination together for a great attack. This can't be done with out the improved alacrity. __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

07-14-2004, 05:14 PM	#4
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 39 Posts: 1,701	Guess what Lord, that cannot be done, and there are two reasons for it: [img]tongue.gif[/img] 1. F/M/T do NOT get any wizard HLA except for bonusspells 2. F/M/T don't even get lvl 9 spells at the XP cap [img]tongue.gif[/img] To get everything you need from assassination, I suggest making some fighter/thief dual class with grandmastery in some weapon and using Belm or Kundane in the offhand. Then use Improved Haste, then apply Assassination. Wammo, 1000+ damage if you are playing the right way __________________ God is in the rain.

07-14-2004, 05:19 PM	#5
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	To put some parmesan on these ideas: don't forget to put a time trap (if possible) or read a time stop scroll (with UAI) before. That will guarantee that every swing also hits. I once had a Kensai/Thief dualled at level 21. You don't want to know what happened in the suggested scenario. __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

07-14-2004, 05:23 PM	#6
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 39 Posts: 1,701	'KAI!' carnage __________________ God is in the rain.

07-16-2004, 01:16 PM	#8
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 39 Posts: 1,701	Since only high level fighters will get this I don't think you'll have to worry about thac0 or number of attacks [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ God is in the rain.

07-16-2004, 03:10 PM	#10
Megachihuahua Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 8, 2004 Location: MD, U.S. Age: 35 Posts: 46	Assasanite sucks with Jan Because his armor is impervious to normal weapons and anything with magic weapons probably can't be killed by assaninate so Jan dies. 'You must spread some spam around before posting in this thread again' __________________ Max Power! He\'s got the name you\'d love to touch! but you musn\'t Touuuch! his name sounds good in your ear, but when you hear it, you musn\'t fear, because his name can be sai-d by anyone!

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