What is so good about Foebane?

Xen · 03-30-2003, 11:17 AM

I know this should probably be in ToB but...
Why do you people sy it is so good?I doesn`t heal you it just adds HP`s.So example:
Xen has 140/160 HP˙s
He is hit and now he has 140/164 HP`s

When I am hit,I am hit.Nothing else...

So,where is the good part in this?

Xen

SpongeBobTheDestoyer · 03-30-2003, 11:58 AM

Maybe yours is bugged or something. Since it cast Laloch's Minor drain you do get hps added, or at least I did. Foebane and Blackrazor together on my Barbarian has been the best dual wield combo I've used so far, IMHO. Yes, better than FoA and CromF, CF and Sanchu and others. But like I said that's just my preference.

Gangrell · 03-30-2003, 01:04 PM

Probably is a bug. Foebane is the best weapon for killing planar creatures, and you get it in Watcher's Keep (I think) so it gives you an advantage over Demogorgon.

weimer · 03-30-2003, 02:03 PM

Make sure that you have the latest patch. Foebane will add to your current and max HP.

Why is Foebane +5 so amazing? Multiple attacks. If you have, say, 8 attacks per round (not unlikely with Imp Haste) you will gain 32 hitpoints per round. This is *much* faster than anything else in the game (even the oft-attacked Sanchuudoku). It is not uncommon to end up with 500+ HP after a big brawl with Foebane.

Alson · 03-30-2003, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by weimer:
Why is Foebane +5 so amazing? Multiple attacks.

Exactly. Comments...

Quote:

If you have, say, 8 attacks per round (not unlikely with Imp Haste) you will gain 32 hitpoints per round.

I'm not 100% sure about this... but doesn't Laroch's Minor Drain sucks 1D4 HP? This would make things quite different - first and obviously, it would mean that with 8 ApR you will gain 20 hitpoints. Second (and quite non-trivial), this would mean that Foebane loses to Blackrazor in the "Best Regenerating Attack" competition - as Blackrazor heals you by 3 hitpoints per hit (20 * 15%) and another 1 hitpoint per 5 seconds.

Loved your "Foebane Commentary" thread in Usenet, by the way. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Sir Exxon · 03-30-2003, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alson:
I'm not 100% sure about this... but doesn't Laroch's Minor Drain sucks 1D4 HP?

Nah, it actually sucks 4 HP every time. No dice rolled.

Leslie · 03-30-2003, 02:19 PM

Yep, I agree - I just checked in one of my saves from TOB. Always 4 hp.

Assassin · 03-31-2003, 03:07 PM

Actually, if you have 8 attacks per round, then, because you're dual-wielding, you'll gain 24 HP per second. Don't forget about that off-hand weapon.

weimer · 03-31-2003, 03:18 PM

We weren't dual-wielding ... but even if we were, it's important to remember that BG2 does not actually alternate attacks.

If you have 4 attacks per round and you are dual-wielding, 3 will be with the primary weapon and the fourth will be with the off-hand.

Assassin · 04-01-2003, 10:57 AM

Okay... for 8 attacks per round, without the Grand Mastery patch, I would say that it's impossible to get that using Foebane without dual-wielding, even with Improved Haste. It's possible to get 10 using the Whirlwind attacks, however.

8/2= 4 attacks non-Improved Hasted. 1/2 (level 7 Fighter) + 1/2 (level 13 Fighter) + 1 (standard) + 1/2 (Specialization) = 2 1/2, without Dual-wielding.

Yes, I know that. You have 4 attacks non-Improved Hasted, which means that 3 of them are with Foebane. Since Improved Haste doubles the attack number, you get 6 with Foebane, and 2 with the off-hand weapon. 6 x 4 (the number of hit points drained) = 24 hit points drained per round.

[ 04-01-2003, 11:12 AM: Message edited by: Assassin ]

03-30-2003, 11:58 AM	#2
SpongeBobTheDestoyer Avatar Join Date: August 2, 2002 Location: St. Louis Age: 50 Posts: 529	Maybe yours is bugged or something. Since it cast Laloch's Minor drain you do get hps added, or at least I did. Foebane and Blackrazor together on my Barbarian has been the best dual wield combo I've used so far, IMHO. Yes, better than FoA and CromF, CF and Sanchu and others. But like I said that's just my preference. __________________ [img]\"http://membres.lycos.fr/th8or/JubeiSigSig.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

03-30-2003, 02:19 PM	#7
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	Yep, I agree - I just checked in one of my saves from TOB. Always 4 hp. __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

03-31-2003, 03:07 PM	#8
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	Actually, if you have 8 attacks per round, then, because you're dual-wielding, you'll gain 24 HP per second. Don't forget about that off-hand weapon. __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

04-01-2003, 10:57 AM	#10
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	Okay... for 8 attacks per round, without the Grand Mastery patch, I would say that it's impossible to get that using Foebane without dual-wielding, even with Improved Haste. It's possible to get 10 using the Whirlwind attacks, however. 8/2= 4 attacks non-Improved Hasted. 1/2 (level 7 Fighter) + 1/2 (level 13 Fighter) + 1 (standard) + 1/2 (Specialization) = 2 1/2, without Dual-wielding. Yes, I know that. You have 4 attacks non-Improved Hasted, which means that 3 of them are with Foebane. Since Improved Haste doubles the attack number, you get 6 with Foebane, and 2 with the off-hand weapon. 6 x 4 (the number of hit points drained) = 24 hit points drained per round. [ 04-01-2003, 11:12 AM: Message edited by: Assassin ] __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

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03-30-2003, 11:17 AM	#1
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	I know this should probably be in ToB but... Why do you people sy it is so good?I doesn`t heal you it just adds HP`s.So example: Xen has 140/160 HP˙s He is hit and now he has 140/164 HP`s When I am hit,I am hit.Nothing else... So,where is the good part in this? Xen

03-30-2003, 01:04 PM	#3
Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 38 Posts: 4,835	Probably is a bug. Foebane is the best weapon for killing planar creatures, and you get it in Watcher's Keep (I think) so it gives you an advantage over Demogorgon.

03-30-2003, 02:03 PM	#4
weimer The Magister Join Date: November 6, 2002 Location: Berkeley, CA Age: 47 Posts: 118	Make sure that you have the latest patch. Foebane will add to your current and max HP. Why is Foebane +5 so amazing? Multiple attacks. If you have, say, 8 attacks per round (not unlikely with Imp Haste) you will gain 32 hitpoints per round. This is much faster than anything else in the game (even the oft-attacked Sanchuudoku). It is not uncommon to end up with 500+ HP after a big brawl with Foebane.

03-31-2003, 03:18 PM	#9
weimer The Magister Join Date: November 6, 2002 Location: Berkeley, CA Age: 47 Posts: 118	We weren't dual-wielding ... but even if we were, it's important to remember that BG2 does not actually alternate attacks. If you have 4 attacks per round and you are dual-wielding, 3 will be with the primary weapon and the fourth will be with the off-hand.

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