item database bug/quirk?

SilentThief · 12-07-2007, 04:57 PM

I've been playing around with the items database, re-creating the different weapons and armor from different locations in my (old Pnp) campaign. I had created some items and then deleted some, and now even tho the monsters that had those items no longer have them; when you fight those monsters you get the "no item" item.

Anyone else have this happen?

SilentThief

Dinonykos · 12-07-2007, 05:09 PM

Did you just delete the items and not change the monster.dat file afterwards?

manikus · 12-07-2007, 05:32 PM

It's not a bug, but a function of the database system.
If you create an item in db1 and reference it in db2, instances in db2 with that reference callback to db1 instead of copying it (saves a lot of space). So, if the item in db1 is deleted but the db2 callback is still looking for it, it returns a message of 'no item'.

I believe that all 3 databases interact with each other in this way.

SilentThief · 12-07-2007, 10:12 PM

not only did I remove the item from the monster, I then deleted the item from the item database as well...

SilentThief

SilentThief · 12-07-2007, 10:20 PM

another issue I had was that the area effects (circle, cone, line) cause my version of dungeoncraft to crash when the spell is cast.

do I need a newer version of directX or something???

SilentThief

manikus · 12-07-2007, 10:34 PM

Does this occur with the spells that come with DC?
I haven't experienced this...but, I have the most recent versions of everything.

Funky Dynamite · 12-10-2007, 05:03 AM

No, it's not your computer. Yeah, I have that problem too, but only with a Vault event...Unfortunately I don't know how to fix it.

manikus · 12-10-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Dynamite

No, it's not your computer. Yeah, I have that problem too, but only with a Vault event...Unfortunately I don't know how to fix it.

Because the item was deleted from the items database, there is no way to get it back. If you recreate it, it is another instance of the item, not the same one.
You have to go to each creature or event that has this "no item" and change it.

Funky Dynamite · 12-12-2007, 05:50 AM

I know, but I'm too lazy to change it. :/ That, and my current desisn is always in flux....

manikus · 12-12-2007, 09:56 AM

Tell me about it.

It's just something that will have to be done before your release.

12-07-2007, 04:57 PM	#1
SilentThief Symbol of Cyric Join Date: September 10, 2001 Location: USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,301	item database bug/quirk? I've been playing around with the items database, re-creating the different weapons and armor from different locations in my (old Pnp) campaign. I had created some items and then deleted some, and now even tho the monsters that had those items no longer have them; when you fight those monsters you get the "no item" item. Anyone else have this happen? SilentThief __________________ http://www.wilhelmscream.net/

12-07-2007, 05:09 PM	#2
Dinonykos Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 20, 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 1,171	Re: item database bug/quirk? Did you just delete the items and not change the monster.dat file afterwards?

12-07-2007, 05:32 PM	#3
manikus Jack Burton Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Stumptown Age: 53 Posts: 5,444	Re: item database bug/quirk? It's not a bug, but a function of the database system. If you create an item in db1 and reference it in db2, instances in db2 with that reference callback to db1 instead of copying it (saves a lot of space). So, if the item in db1 is deleted but the db2 callback is still looking for it, it returns a message of 'no item'. I believe that all 3 databases interact with each other in this way. __________________ manikus Official Site \| DC Wiki \| DC Bug Tracker

12-07-2007, 10:12 PM	#4
SilentThief Symbol of Cyric Join Date: September 10, 2001 Location: USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,301	Re: item database bug/quirk? not only did I remove the item from the monster, I then deleted the item from the item database as well... SilentThief __________________ http://www.wilhelmscream.net/

12-07-2007, 10:20 PM	#5
SilentThief Symbol of Cyric Join Date: September 10, 2001 Location: USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,301	Re: item database bug/quirk? another issue I had was that the area effects (circle, cone, line) cause my version of dungeoncraft to crash when the spell is cast. do I need a newer version of directX or something??? SilentThief __________________ http://www.wilhelmscream.net/

12-07-2007, 10:34 PM	#6
manikus Jack Burton Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Stumptown Age: 53 Posts: 5,444	Re: item database bug/quirk? Does this occur with the spells that come with DC? I haven't experienced this...but, I have the most recent versions of everything. __________________ manikus Official Site \| DC Wiki \| DC Bug Tracker

12-10-2007, 05:03 AM	#7
Funky Dynamite Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri Age: 51 Posts: 393	Re: item database bug/quirk? No, it's not your computer. Yeah, I have that problem too, but only with a Vault event...Unfortunately I don't know how to fix it. __________________ "Where does he get those wonderful toys...?" "Why, I sell my soul, of course...."

12-12-2007, 05:50 AM	#9
Funky Dynamite Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri Age: 51 Posts: 393	Re: item database bug/quirk? I know, but I'm too lazy to change it. :/ That, and my current desisn is always in flux.... __________________ "Where does he get those wonderful toys...?" "Why, I sell my soul, of course...."

12-12-2007, 09:56 AM	#10
manikus Jack Burton Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Stumptown Age: 53 Posts: 5,444	Re: item database bug/quirk? Tell me about it. It's just something that will have to be done before your release. __________________ manikus Official Site \| DC Wiki \| DC Bug Tracker

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