Vithal (spoiler)

Lord Demerol · 10-23-2004, 12:51 AM

I was wondering... what do you ppl do with Vithal ?

I'm asking because I've always had a serious problem with Vithal: I know he carries certain items I'd like to get... but I can't kill the guy! I just can't!.

To clarify things, it's not that Vithal is too hard to kill. As a neutral mage, he's a moron who doesn't mind casting "Agannazar's Scorcher" on... a Fire Elemental, no less! (you on crack, Vithal?!). If he goes hostile, he's a pretty decent fight, with defensive spells and TimeStop+Imprisonments+Dimension Door if things go ugly. Sneaky, but killable.

Now, my problem with him is... I can't just go and kill such a nice guy!

Let's check it out:
Vithal is well-educated and soft-spoken. He always says "Please" and "Thank You" . He asks you to "Wish him Well" before going into the portals, and is "glad to see you" when he comes back. He apologizes at once if you make him feel like he just said something wrong. Above everything -and this is what my current PC (LN CLERIC/MAGE with a HOT temper) likes the most- Vithal treats "CHARNAME" with the respect due to a godspawn. (And a cheesy one, BTW.) Adalon and Elhan & his goons could learn a few things from this guy.

I remember I killed Vithal guy in my first "evil" game and... would you believe this ruined the rest of my game? I mean, I was finishing the game, fighting Irenicus in Hell, (SoA - No ToB) and I still couldn't stop thinking "Man, I can't believe I killed that nice mageling in the Underdark". Duh!.

How do you ppl handle this guy, and how do you justify whatever you do?

TIA

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 10-23-2004, 01:27 AM

Pickpocket him if you want.

Justification:

A) He's evil (Cast Detect Evil and see for yourself)

B) He gives you a rod with ONE charge. That jerk.

[ 10-23-2004, 01:27 AM: Message edited by: Illumina Drathiran'ar ]

Lord · 10-23-2004, 04:29 AM

Keep in mind that you do most of the fighting, but he keeps most of the good stuff. Since he wasn't honorable/fair in his dealings with you, then you are permitted to kill him. Does that sound like an ideal justification?

Riftmaker · 10-23-2004, 04:55 AM

Plus the guy is an ass.

SixOfSpades · 10-23-2004, 05:52 PM

I usually let him live--sure, you do most of the fighting, and the loot you get is relatively crap, but those Elementals certainly aren't much more than walking EXP.

What I would like to see implemented is a dialogue that lets you haggle over how much, and what parts, of the loot you get, thus enabling a suitably-imposing PC to haggle for the Time Stop scroll and forgo the nearly-useless Rod.

rily83 · 10-24-2004, 03:48 PM

I just dont like people not handing over what i deserve, whether its a few scrolls, a holy relic of the Githyanki, or excellent xp. Sorry Vithal its nothing personal, just business.

10-23-2004, 01:27 AM	#2
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	Pickpocket him if you want. Justification: A) He's evil (Cast Detect Evil and see for yourself) B) He gives you a rod with ONE charge. That jerk. [ 10-23-2004, 01:27 AM: Message edited by: Illumina Drathiran'ar ] __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

10-23-2004, 04:29 AM	#3
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 40 Posts: 3,302	Keep in mind that you do most of the fighting, but he keeps most of the good stuff. Since he wasn't honorable/fair in his dealings with you, then you are permitted to kill him. Does that sound like an ideal justification? __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

10-23-2004, 04:55 AM	#4
Riftmaker Elminster Join Date: August 30, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 40 Posts: 463	Plus the guy is an ass. __________________ a.k.a. Lord`Rift<br />Founder, Anti-Idgit Squad.<br />\"I find your lack of geek knowledge disturbing\"

10-23-2004, 05:52 PM	#5
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	I usually let him live--sure, you do most of the fighting, and the loot you get is relatively crap, but those Elementals certainly aren't much more than walking EXP. What I would like to see implemented is a dialogue that lets you haggle over how much, and what parts, of the loot you get, thus enabling a suitably-imposing PC to haggle for the Time Stop scroll and forgo the nearly-useless Rod. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

10-24-2004, 03:48 PM	#6
rily83 Dungeon Master Join Date: December 21, 2002 Location: spore Age: 40 Posts: 64	I just dont like people not handing over what i deserve, whether its a few scrolls, a holy relic of the Githyanki, or excellent xp. Sorry Vithal its nothing personal, just business. __________________ hee

10-23-2004, 12:51 AM	#1
Lord Demerol Dungeon Master Join Date: October 4, 2002 Location: Caribbean Island Age: 61 Posts: 85	I was wondering... what do you ppl do with Vithal ? I'm asking because I've always had a serious problem with Vithal: I know he carries certain items I'd like to get... but I can't kill the guy! I just can't!. To clarify things, it's not that Vithal is too hard to kill. As a neutral mage, he's a moron who doesn't mind casting "Agannazar's Scorcher" on... a Fire Elemental, no less! (you on crack, Vithal?!). If he goes hostile, he's a pretty decent fight, with defensive spells and TimeStop+Imprisonments+Dimension Door if things go ugly. Sneaky, but killable. Now, my problem with him is... I can't just go and kill such a nice guy! Let's check it out: Vithal is well-educated and soft-spoken. He always says "Please" and "Thank You" . He asks you to "Wish him Well" before going into the portals, and is "glad to see you" when he comes back. He apologizes at once if you make him feel like he just said something wrong. Above everything -and this is what my current PC (LN CLERIC/MAGE with a HOT temper) likes the most- Vithal treats "CHARNAME" with the respect due to a godspawn. (And a cheesy one, BTW.) Adalon and Elhan & his goons could learn a few things from this guy. I remember I killed Vithal guy in my first "evil" game and... would you believe this ruined the rest of my game? I mean, I was finishing the game, fighting Irenicus in Hell, (SoA - No ToB) and I still couldn't stop thinking "Man, I can't believe I killed that nice mageling in the Underdark". Duh!. How do you ppl handle this guy, and how do you justify whatever you do? TIA

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