Eminem CD cracked chart at #2, Days before official release!

[andrewas]

Sure ian, nice idea. And when Bioware make NWN they should realease it for free as well.

Fine in a perfect communism perhaps, but that only works for Insects. In the real world people need money to produce the goods. Granted maybe the musicians dont need quite the money they have, but thats no excuse to go steal it.

[Grojlach]

andrewas, even though I don't agree with Deathkiller's solutions, it's a known fact that artists hardly make any money out of record sales, only the record companies do. Artists basically earn their living with live performances and record company contracts, using the CD's as promotion material to get more people to buy a ticket to see them in concert.

[Staralfur]

Originally posted by Grojlach: quote: Originally posted by Staralfur: What concerns me more is the fact Gracenote are able to find out what cds people are listening to. Surely this is an invasion of privacy, or is it another term hidden a the bottom of the EUA? Anyone know which programs Gracenote is associated with?

Winamp.
But don't worry, Gracenote works in a way that it can easily look up all the song titles of a certain CD you're playing in Winamp, so you won't have to enter them manually. And of course, there's always the option to disable that function completely in your Winamp... Just indicate in the preferences that you don't have an Internet connection available, that way Winamp won't try to connect to the Gracenote database to look up the song titles. [/QUOTE]Arrghhh - I just started reusing Winamp.

I think the particular setting is 'Allow Winamp to report basic, anonymous program usage information'. Funny how it is automatically ticked, and there is no mention of selecting it in the set up. It should be an 'opt in' not an 'opt out' policy if you ask me, I listen to far too much embrassing music .

[Link]

I personally like the video clip of "Without Me" a lot [img]smile.gif[/img] Damn funny!! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[RudeDawg]

Originally posted by Staralfur: quote: Originally posted by Grojlach: quote: Originally posted by Staralfur: What concerns me more is the fact Gracenote are able to find out what cds people are listening to. Surely this is an invasion of privacy, or is it another term hidden a the bottom of the EUA? Anyone know which programs Gracenote is associated with?

Winamp.
But don't worry, Gracenote works in a way that it can easily look up all the song titles of a certain CD you're playing in Winamp, so you won't have to enter them manually. And of course, there's always the option to disable that function completely in your Winamp... Just indicate in the preferences that you don't have an Internet connection available, that way Winamp won't try to connect to the Gracenote database to look up the song titles. [/QUOTE]Arrghhh - I just started reusing Winamp.

I think the particular setting is 'Allow Winamp to report basic, anonymous program usage information'. Funny how it is automatically ticked, and there is no mention of selecting it in the set up. It should be an 'opt in' not an 'opt out' policy if you ask me, I listen to far too much embrassing music .[/QUOTE]Sorry for the nested quotes, but this is for all three of you...
Gracenote is one of the companies that stole and now runs the CDDB: CD DataBase, which was put together as an open-source project to collect data on CD such as CD titles, Tracks, and Artists. Winamp is not the only program that uses it, most music players (NOT just MP3 players) do. If your program automatically "reads" your CD and shows the information, it's accessing the CDDB. Most music programs access it, and it IS a convenience.
Except for their THEFT of CDDB (along with their other B@STARD corporate partners in crime) there is nothing to worry about. The only data they collect is off of the inquiries to the CDDB. They determine how often a new inquiry came in for the CD over the quoted period of time, and were able to find how many CDs are out there.

quoting from the article:

Hyman said the company didn't keep enough information in its database to be useful to anti-piracy investigators. The technology does log Internet addresses and count CD titles, as well as keep a username for people checking the database, but it does not correlate this data, he said. "We don't keep the data" that antipiracy investigators might want, Hyman said. "The last thing we'd ever want to do is become some kind of policing entity."

Hope this answered some concerns. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[johnny]

Originally posted by Earthdog: Im still stuck with trying to figure out "Why would anyone want to bootleg Eminem?" And, even worse, "Why would anyone want to buy it?" El Yucko.

i got one word for ya dude: MONEY.

[Staralfur]

Thanks Rudey, I didn't read carefully enough to find out this was associated with CDDB. I would still condsider it being on the verge of spyware though - especially as there was no 'turn off' option on installing.

[Staralfur]

Just following this story up; Found this on the NME website;

EMINEM's new album 'THE EMINEM SHOW' has gone to Number One in the US - on the basis of just one day's sales.
The record was moved forward from its June 4 release date, and hit shops on Sunday (May 26). Despite a lack of advertising it sold 284,534 copies on that day alone, according to the Reuters news service.

That figure is approximately 100,000 copies ahead that of closest rival P. Diddy's 'We Invented The Remix' album, which is at Number Two.

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It is expected that the album could sell up to a million copies in the coming week.



I wonder how much damage the 'unofficially released' copy did after all?

[Chewbacca]

hehehe I helped shut-down a few bootleggers this week, and if the authorities find a big enough burning operation from the info I gave them and the arrests they made, I could get a $500 reward. Thieves suck.

[Madman-Rogovich]

im not a fan either but to see that happen to any musician is really sad....ive only heard the new song but my opinion, which imsure you neither value or want is, come on one sample per song????