How do you Pickpocket/Shoplift?

jsteng · 02-04-2002, 06:15 AM

In my last party, I did not steal items and ended up with cheap items.
Now I decided to pickpocket and steal items...

I heard people saying I should practice Pickpocket with Anna in Arnika.. they say i should charm her if got caught....

I tried it, dont work.

Whats the better way?

Nightowl2 · 02-04-2002, 01:18 PM

The better way is: save the game. Try to grab something. If successful, save the game. If caught, restore. Anna is very hard to bring back to friendly.

Nightowl

ebayles · 02-04-2002, 08:14 PM

Is there a difference between pickpocketing and shoplifting?

Nightowl2 · 02-04-2002, 09:46 PM

They both use the same skill. So in that sense, there's no difference. However, I don't know if there is a factor involved that makes one form of theft easier than another. It's seemed about the same to me.

Nightowl2

Pyrates · 02-04-2002, 09:48 PM

I can't confirm it, but read somewhere that the NPC's remember shoplifting, i.e. they get angry at you at some point. PP seems not to be affecting your relation to them, if you succeed, that is

Never forget your towel, cheers
Philipp

Nightowl2 · 02-04-2002, 10:05 PM

One of the later patches - I don't know which one - changed thievery so that shopkeepers will notice stuff is gone and connect you with the theft. This is one reason I installed only the Ascension Peak patch

Nightowl2

Pyrates · 02-04-2002, 11:48 PM

Hi Nightowl2!

Yep, I heard that too, but I am actually not convinced that it is true, or how strong it affects your relation. I pickpocketed the Umpani Sergeant which lets you in several times, I think 50 or so, everytime successfull. He's still talking to me like in the beginning... haven't tried the other ones, though, reloading is soooo slow on my Laptop.

Never forget your towel, cheers

Philipp

Jem · 02-05-2002, 12:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Pyrates:
I pickpocketed the Umpani Sergeant which lets you in several times, I think 50 or so, everytime successfull.

You can pickpocket successfully without upsetting the NPCs unless you happen to get caught in the attempt in which case you can either back out, reload and try again up until the time before you got caught or try and bribe your way out of them being mad at you.

It's shoplifting that can mess you up. You might get away with it at the time but the next time you come back and see the merchant they are less friendly to you and you have to bribe your way back into their good graces. So technically, the so-called 'nerfing' of PPing that the 12/23 patch caused is only against shoplifting, not PPing per say.

And it is still possible to get your PPing skill up there even with the limitations on shoplifting because my bard ended the game with a natural 75 in it plus the two Filcher's Bands I would equip him with whenever we talked to an NPC raised his level to 105 (+15 each).

Pyrates · 02-05-2002, 02:12 AM

Thanks, Jem! That's what I thought, or at least, what seems to make most sense for me... ok, after it, everybody has known the outcome before

Thanks anyway

Never forget your towel, cheers
Philipp

ebayles · 02-05-2002, 09:33 AM

Ugh-Still havent figured this out. PP is when you are in the NPC menu (with trade, recruit, etc.) When can you shoplift? I havent figured this out...thanks!

02-04-2002, 09:48 PM	#5
Pyrates Drow Warrior Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Muenster Age: 46 Posts: 287	I can't confirm it, but read somewhere that the NPC's remember shoplifting, i.e. they get angry at you at some point. PP seems not to be affecting your relation to them, if you succeed, that is Never forget your towel, cheers Philipp __________________ \" ... and the Vogon will do things to you that you wish you\'d never been born, or, if you\'re a clearer minded thinker, that the Vogon had never been born.\"

02-04-2002, 11:48 PM	#7
Pyrates Drow Warrior Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Muenster Age: 46 Posts: 287	Hi Nightowl2! Yep, I heard that too, but I am actually not convinced that it is true, or how strong it affects your relation. I pickpocketed the Umpani Sergeant which lets you in several times, I think 50 or so, everytime successfull. He's still talking to me like in the beginning... haven't tried the other ones, though, reloading is soooo slow on my Laptop. Never forget your towel, cheers Philipp __________________ \" ... and the Vogon will do things to you that you wish you\'d never been born, or, if you\'re a clearer minded thinker, that the Vogon had never been born.\"

02-05-2002, 12:59 AM	#8
Jem Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 28, 2002 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 347	quote: Originally posted by Pyrates: I pickpocketed the Umpani Sergeant which lets you in several times, I think 50 or so, everytime successfull. You can pickpocket successfully without upsetting the NPCs unless you happen to get caught in the attempt in which case you can either back out, reload and try again up until the time before you got caught or try and bribe your way out of them being mad at you. It's shoplifting that can mess you up. You might get away with it at the time but the next time you come back and see the merchant they are less friendly to you and you have to bribe your way back into their good graces. So technically, the so-called 'nerfing' of PPing that the 12/23 patch caused is only against shoplifting, not PPing per say. And it is still possible to get your PPing skill up there even with the limitations on shoplifting because my bard ended the game with a natural 75 in it plus the two Filcher's Bands I would equip him with whenever we talked to an NPC raised his level to 105 (+15 each). __________________ Jem :kitty1:

02-05-2002, 02:12 AM	#9
Pyrates Drow Warrior Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Muenster Age: 46 Posts: 287	Thanks, Jem! That's what I thought, or at least, what seems to make most sense for me... ok, after it, everybody has known the outcome before Thanks anyway Never forget your towel, cheers Philipp __________________ \" ... and the Vogon will do things to you that you wish you\'d never been born, or, if you\'re a clearer minded thinker, that the Vogon had never been born.\"

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02-04-2002, 06:15 AM	#1
jsteng Dungeon Master Join Date: January 20, 2002 Location: Manila Age: 58 Posts: 66	In my last party, I did not steal items and ended up with cheap items. Now I decided to pickpocket and steal items... I heard people saying I should practice Pickpocket with Anna in Arnika.. they say i should charm her if got caught.... I tried it, dont work. Whats the better way?

02-04-2002, 01:18 PM	#2
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 47 Posts: 2,190	The better way is: save the game. Try to grab something. If successful, save the game. If caught, restore. Anna is very hard to bring back to friendly. Nightowl

02-04-2002, 08:14 PM	#3
ebayles Dungeon Master Join Date: July 25, 2001 Posts: 61	Is there a difference between pickpocketing and shoplifting?

02-04-2002, 09:46 PM	#4
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 47 Posts: 2,190	They both use the same skill. So in that sense, there's no difference. However, I don't know if there is a factor involved that makes one form of theft easier than another. It's seemed about the same to me. Nightowl2

02-04-2002, 10:05 PM	#6
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 47 Posts: 2,190	One of the later patches - I don't know which one - changed thievery so that shopkeepers will notice stuff is gone and connect you with the theft. This is one reason I installed only the Ascension Peak patch Nightowl2

02-05-2002, 09:33 AM	#10
ebayles Dungeon Master Join Date: July 25, 2001 Posts: 61	Ugh-Still havent figured this out. PP is when you are in the NPC menu (with trade, recruit, etc.) When can you shoplift? I havent figured this out...thanks!

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