Discussion on CLASS -- Part 1

[Timber Loftis]

I started a little discussion on Class over at Oasis, and I'd like to see broader input, so I'm posting the link here.

Class Discussion Thread

If you don't feel like posting a reply on that site, then please, feel free to add your comments here, as I will be checking back here as well to review opinions.

Thanks and enjoy.

[pritchke]

I will say this, just because someone is of a higher class doesn't mean they have class.

[ 01-19-2006, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

[Timber Loftis]

Does it really? Well, that would only be the case if you defined class by money alone. So, I assume you'll be choosing choice (1) that class is primarily dictated by money and economic means.

[pritchke]

No, I will refrase.

Just because someone is of a higher class (richer)doesn't mean they have class (the way they act towards others).

I can think of many examples of this, for example there are retailers who refuse to deal with people of poor housing because, and only deal with those who buy mansions. While the retailer may be of high class his actions are not very classy because he treats the poor with a disregard.

There are many rich who snub there noses at the lesser people who are hard working but less fortunate. That rich may be catorigized as a higher class but they have no class themselves.

[ 01-19-2006, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

[Stratos]

I've posted at the thread at Oasis.

[Azred]

As I posted over there, money alone does not define class. One may quantify people by any standard such as education or profession. Are doctors really better than trash collectors? Are people with a master's degree necessarily better than non-college-educated folks, but not quite as high-class as those who earned a PhD? There are many, many ways to assign classes to people. One thing to note, though: the person doing the classifying generally classifies themself into the "highest" or "best" class available.

I honestly state that I generally stratify people into class by the overall cultural level, their manners, and/or their intelligence. Of course, this puts me into one of the highest categories, if not the highest one. Is classifying people thusly classy, in and of itself? No, but at least I'm honest about it. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

[Sir Degrader]

Poor people suck, down with the proletariat, rah rah fat cats.

[Aerich]

Originally posted by Sir Degrader: Poor people suck, down with the proletariat, rah rah fat cats.

May all your stock portfolios take a nosedive. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[sageridder]

I don't like any of the choices to vote for.I think the amount of class a person has is most associated with thier actions both public and private.A man who feeds the poor and gives 20% of his income to the church might still molest thier child and beat thier wife.The rich look down thier noses at each other on new money old money and some look down on people with less money then them regardless of the quaility of that person.Education and proffesion might put you in a position to contribute more to society but in and of themselves don't make you have more class.Taste, culture, and style can be very classy and swing all the other way to self centered snobbery.But maybe I've strayed if your just trying to classify people chop'em up any way you like I think you'll have trouble fitting most people into one box.To be truthfull I belive this a trick question as the definitions of the word are not much like the definitions people asscribe to it.

[Nightwing]

Social class is measured in economic and edjucational values I believe. Personal class has more to do with how you act and use what you have. George Bush may be of the so called upper class because of his money and edjucation but he one of the lowest class people from my public point of view. The question needs to be more defined. We can't just say how do we measure class because it is a moral value as well as a measureable value. So money puts you into one class where actions and behavior may put you in a different class.