Dragon Helm!-Armour class modifier?

Aar-Daneel · 03-27-2002, 01:22 AM

IMHO magic seems to be used as a get out clause for the creation ofa lot of the unique items in fantasy crpg.Want a new item? some powerful wizard/s got together to make x item for x quest.Et Voila! item and history.
take the Dragon Helm wormsor just decides to make a magical helm what'll i need hmmmm DRAGON scales and a HECK of a lot of magic.Now dragon scales are not exactly the easiest things to come by(is that snorts of derision i heard! lol) and the sheer scale of magic used to mould shape and enchant THREE types of scale and what do we come up with The Dragon Helm SETS fire,cold and electicity protection to 25% Oh Really how maginificent.If you think of the sheer effort alone to the wizard in question surely there would be a knock on effect or at least a benifical sideeffect +1\2 to saving throwns or better a =1 ac modifier it is dragons we are talking about.I would have thought that the enchantment on this would have come from the result of it being worn when something happened an unexepected fortuate as opposed to a specified result it seems to minor an item for all of that expense and effort.Anyone else have any thoughts.does anyone care?lol.

PoesRaven · 03-27-2002, 10:11 AM

IMHO you think too much mate

I agree tho, i thought a Dragon Helm would be a bit more exciting. Oh well, at least the Dragon Scale Armours are good

J'aran · 03-27-2002, 11:47 AM

IIRC, the Dragon Helm does give a +1 AC bonus. And besides, if enchanting the three types of scales is so much work already, why would the wizard go out of his way to make the item even more powerful? He's exhausting his magic enough as is.

Sir Marcus Swordseeker · 03-27-2002, 02:46 PM

Not to mention the fact that the wizard in question cant even wear it so why would he make more powerful then he had to

Aar-Daneel · 03-27-2002, 02:54 PM

yeah probably do think to much lol.
J'aran the dh doesn't have an ac modifier

J'aran · 03-28-2002, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aar-Daneel:
J'aran the dh doesn't have an ac modifier

Yea, you're right. I was mistaken in my earlier post.

Glorfindel · 03-28-2002, 04:38 AM

Unfortunately IIRC it REDUCES ur resistances if they r higher

Deathcow · 03-28-2002, 09:36 PM

reduces? that doesnt sound right

it SETS your resistances to 25, doesnt give you +25

so if youre using the dragon helm AND the shield, which both SET your resistances to 25, you will still have 25 instead of 50, because they dont add...then the +fire resistance comes after that

so you should only have one item that SETS your resistances, and the rest should give +resistances

03-27-2002, 01:22 AM	#1
Aar-Daneel Dungeon Master Join Date: March 13, 2002 Location: uk Posts: 63	IMHO magic seems to be used as a get out clause for the creation ofa lot of the unique items in fantasy crpg.Want a new item? some powerful wizard/s got together to make x item for x quest.Et Voila! item and history. take the Dragon Helm wormsor just decides to make a magical helm what'll i need hmmmm DRAGON scales and a HECK of a lot of magic.Now dragon scales are not exactly the easiest things to come by(is that snorts of derision i heard! lol) and the sheer scale of magic used to mould shape and enchant THREE types of scale and what do we come up with The Dragon Helm SETS fire,cold and electicity protection to 25% Oh Really how maginificent.If you think of the sheer effort alone to the wizard in question surely there would be a knock on effect or at least a benifical sideeffect +1\2 to saving throwns or better a =1 ac modifier it is dragons we are talking about.I would have thought that the enchantment on this would have come from the result of it being worn when something happened an unexepected fortuate as opposed to a specified result it seems to minor an item for all of that expense and effort.Anyone else have any thoughts.does anyone care?lol. __________________ [IMG] [url]\"http://www.yoursighost.com/members/ardaneel/sig1.gif\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.yoursighost.com/members/ardaneel/sig1.gif</a> [/IMG]<br />a meticulous planner may get results, but they miss out on all the chaos

03-27-2002, 02:54 PM	#5
Aar-Daneel Dungeon Master Join Date: March 13, 2002 Location: uk Posts: 63	yeah probably do think to much lol. J'aran the dh doesn't have an ac modifier __________________ [IMG] [url]\"http://www.yoursighost.com/members/ardaneel/sig1.gif\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.yoursighost.com/members/ardaneel/sig1.gif</a> [/IMG]<br />a meticulous planner may get results, but they miss out on all the chaos

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03-27-2002, 10:11 AM	#2
PoesRaven Manshoon Join Date: September 6, 2001 Posts: 169	IMHO you think too much mate I agree tho, i thought a Dragon Helm would be a bit more exciting. Oh well, at least the Dragon Scale Armours are good

03-27-2002, 11:47 AM	#3
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 1,493	IIRC, the Dragon Helm does give a +1 AC bonus. And besides, if enchanting the three types of scales is so much work already, why would the wizard go out of his way to make the item even more powerful? He's exhausting his magic enough as is.

03-27-2002, 02:46 PM	#4
Sir Marcus Swordseeker Dungeon Master Join Date: January 25, 2002 Location: Carson City Nv Posts: 82	Not to mention the fact that the wizard in question cant even wear it so why would he make more powerful then he had to

03-28-2002, 04:38 AM	#7
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 37 Posts: 3,337	Unfortunately IIRC it REDUCES ur resistances if they r higher

03-28-2002, 09:36 PM	#8
Deathcow Elminster Join Date: January 24, 2002 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 467	reduces? that doesnt sound right it SETS your resistances to 25, doesnt give you +25 so if youre using the dragon helm AND the shield, which both SET your resistances to 25, you will still have 25 instead of 50, because they dont add...then the +fire resistance comes after that so you should only have one item that SETS your resistances, and the rest should give +resistances

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