Final Battle Question (slight spoiler)

Borg · 04-22-2003, 02:46 PM

Slight Spoiler about who is in the final battle (w/ Ascension):
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Ok, as much as I hate to admit it, I am getting my butt handed to me in the first battle when I go to the throne room (w/ Ascension). I am facing Improved Irenicus, Bohdi, and two Fallen Solars (plus Slayer Imoen) on Insane. On my side, I have Balthazar, Minsc, Keldorn, Jahera, Aerie, and me (a Kensai => Mage). My party is around 24th level.

I cannot seem to make it past Irenicus' time stop where he seems to then hit my party with the whole book of spells.

Any suggestions? Buffs I should do before the battle? Tactics to employ during the battle? Perhaps something to get me on the right path.

Much appreciated...

Leslie · 04-22-2003, 03:36 PM

Jaheira - Insect plague (on Solars - possibly even Jonny if he is near)
Keldorn - Carsomyr - on Jonny as soon as his PFMW wears off (listen carefully)
or use his Dispel magic on Jonny

Kensai/Mage - time stop and hack + Balthazar is probably immune to time stop - he can help (don't tell him what to do - just point in the right direction)
Also spell Immunity-Abjuration (If Jonny wants to dispel, remove, breach you)

Minsc , Aerie - help

Potions of Invulnerability, Potions of Magic shielding, Potions od Magic Blocking, Potions of ...

Ignore Imoen !

Or maybe have her chase Aerie while you fight !

daan · 04-22-2003, 04:06 PM

Yup .. make sure you let balthazar do his thing. Chances are that he'll react to Jonnie casting timestop by chanting, which can temporarily make him Immune to time-stop. He finished off half of the party in the next fight after the first time-stop in my game [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Assassin · 04-22-2003, 07:12 PM

Or, you could just interrupt the Time Stop with an insta-cast Dragon's Breath.

Borg · 04-24-2003, 02:46 PM

Thanks for the help. I've gotten much further in this battle now. I almost had it won, but I think a lucky vorpal shot from the Fallen Solar took my character out (it was that or Jonny Boy appearing with a comet).

Insect Plague didn't seem to affect the Fallen Solar. Do you know if they are magic resistant?

Also, does anyone know if there is a way to see Jon Irenicus when he goes invisible and does the aura clense thing? True Sight doesn't seem to identify him, so then he shows up and hits me with time stop or a comet that takes a battle I'm winning and changes everything.

Raistlin Majere · 04-24-2003, 02:55 PM

Solars are 85% resistant to magic, 100% resistant to all but fire damage and 50% resistant to all physical damage. i used my thiefs detect illusion ability to detect all invisible creatures. quite handy.

A word of caution: that battle is EASY compared to the fight coming up [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Edit: sorry, FALLEN SOLARS are like that. the good solars are a little differently resistant.

[ 04-24-2003, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: Raistlin Majere ]

Leslie · 04-24-2003, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Borg:
Insect Plague didn't seem to affect the Fallen Solar. Do you know if they are magic resistant?

Try in a combination with Greater Malison or use his big brother version - Creeping Doom.

daan · 04-25-2003, 01:57 PM

If jonnie's invisible, jonnie's invisible .. sorry [img]smile.gif[/img]
On the upside .. you can use his trick too. Its a matter of casting Spell Immunity : divination. This will render you immune to any invisibilty-purging spells

Morgeruat · 04-25-2003, 03:46 PM

SI: Abjuration will prevent dispel magic as well

daan · 04-26-2003, 07:36 AM

SI: abjuration will prevent any protection-removing spell except Ruby Ray of Reversal. Neet [img]smile.gif[/img]

04-22-2003, 03:36 PM	#2
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	Jaheira - Insect plague (on Solars - possibly even Jonny if he is near) Keldorn - Carsomyr - on Jonny as soon as his PFMW wears off (listen carefully) or use his Dispel magic on Jonny Kensai/Mage - time stop and hack + Balthazar is probably immune to time stop - he can help (don't tell him what to do - just point in the right direction) Also spell Immunity-Abjuration (If Jonny wants to dispel, remove, breach you) Minsc , Aerie - help Potions of Invulnerability, Potions of Magic shielding, Potions od Magic Blocking, Potions of ... Ignore Imoen ! Or maybe have her chase Aerie while you fight ! __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

04-22-2003, 04:06 PM	#3
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 39 Posts: 1,644	Yup .. make sure you let balthazar do his thing. Chances are that he'll react to Jonnie casting timestop by chanting, which can temporarily make him Immune to time-stop. He finished off half of the party in the next fight after the first time-stop in my game [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

04-22-2003, 07:12 PM	#4
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	Or, you could just interrupt the Time Stop with an insta-cast Dragon's Breath. __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

04-24-2003, 02:55 PM	#6
Raistlin Majere Ra Join Date: March 26, 2002 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 2,323	Solars are 85% resistant to magic, 100% resistant to all but fire damage and 50% resistant to all physical damage. i used my thiefs detect illusion ability to detect all invisible creatures. quite handy. A word of caution: that battle is EASY compared to the fight coming up [img]smile.gif[/img] . Edit: sorry, FALLEN SOLARS are like that. the good solars are a little differently resistant. [ 04-24-2003, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: Raistlin Majere ] __________________ If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst forth at once in the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One. "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

04-25-2003, 01:57 PM	#8
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 39 Posts: 1,644	If jonnie's invisible, jonnie's invisible .. sorry [img]smile.gif[/img] On the upside .. you can use his trick too. Its a matter of casting Spell Immunity : divination. This will render you immune to any invisibilty-purging spells __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

04-22-2003, 02:46 PM	#1
Borg The Magister Join Date: March 25, 2003 Location: San Francisco Age: 53 Posts: 137	Slight Spoiler about who is in the final battle (w/ Ascension): ~ ~ ~ ~ Ok, as much as I hate to admit it, I am getting my butt handed to me in the first battle when I go to the throne room (w/ Ascension). I am facing Improved Irenicus, Bohdi, and two Fallen Solars (plus Slayer Imoen) on Insane. On my side, I have Balthazar, Minsc, Keldorn, Jahera, Aerie, and me (a Kensai => Mage). My party is around 24th level. I cannot seem to make it past Irenicus' time stop where he seems to then hit my party with the whole book of spells. Any suggestions? Buffs I should do before the battle? Tactics to employ during the battle? Perhaps something to get me on the right path. Much appreciated...

04-24-2003, 02:46 PM	#5
Borg The Magister Join Date: March 25, 2003 Location: San Francisco Age: 53 Posts: 137	Thanks for the help. I've gotten much further in this battle now. I almost had it won, but I think a lucky vorpal shot from the Fallen Solar took my character out (it was that or Jonny Boy appearing with a comet). Insect Plague didn't seem to affect the Fallen Solar. Do you know if they are magic resistant? Also, does anyone know if there is a way to see Jon Irenicus when he goes invisible and does the aura clense thing? True Sight doesn't seem to identify him, so then he shows up and hits me with time stop or a comet that takes a battle I'm winning and changes everything.

04-25-2003, 03:46 PM	#9
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 44 Posts: 5,421	SI: Abjuration will prevent dispel magic as well __________________ "Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison

04-26-2003, 07:36 AM	#10
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 39 Posts: 1,644	SI: abjuration will prevent any protection-removing spell except Ruby Ray of Reversal. Neet [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

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