A question of ethics

pBluescript · 09-19-2002, 08:58 PM

I had recently finished BGII and began ToB. To play ToB, I imported my group from BGII. Very early into the game (I had just entered Sarduch) my hard drive crashed and I had to do a full system restore.

The upshot is, I lost all information on BGII or ToB and my imported party is now gone. Everything is gone. No, I did not save the information on disc for two reasons. #1: I didn't know I could; #2 If I knew I could I didn't know how.

Is is ethical as a gamer to go to a cheat site and download all the goodies I had collected from BGII SoA and give them to my characters so they will be as well equipped now as they were at the end of BG SoA?

Or will the true gamer reload SoA, replay the entire game to reacquire the XP and treasure/magic so that the game can then be imported to ToB?

Truely a dilemma.

Lord Lothar · 09-19-2002, 09:11 PM

I would get the items from the CLUACOnsole becasue IMO a screwed up crash isn't a reason to start all over again.

True_Moose · 09-19-2002, 11:16 PM

Definitely get them back. No prob at all. Just try to resist the temptation to get items you missed, or items that you got early on in ToB.

Grindar Silvermane · 09-20-2002, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by True_Moose:
Definitely get them back. No prob at all. Just try to resist the temptation to get items you missed, or items that you got early on in ToB.

Agree with you there True_Moose.
Either use the clua-console or Shadowkeeper to re-create your party (if you still have your party stats that is pBluescript). I did the same to re-create my pnp characters and use them in one party.
But indeed SK is even more tempting to add some extra items since you get to see the whole friggin' list of items available.

Edit: BTW, I like your sig-statement

[ 09-20-2002, 06:45 AM: Message edited by: Grindar Silvermane ]

Mack_Attack · 09-20-2002, 11:23 AM

I also Agree. This would not be a cheat. Go ahead and get your gear back and get playin. This is something that was out of your control. But if you still fell bad about doin it don't do it. But I would.

[ 09-20-2002, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Mack_Attack ]

Melusine · 09-22-2002, 09:12 AM

The only reason why you should reload BG2 that I can think of is that if you start a new game in TOB you cannot have/continue a romance.
Apart from that, I don't see any reason why you couldn't equip the items you want using SK, after all it's your game and you decide how you want to play it. If you don't feel up to going through the entire BG2 story again, just don't do it

[img]smile.gif[/img]

Sir Exxon · 09-22-2002, 10:41 AM

I agree on what have been said, use SK to get the items you want. After all, you have gone through the game, having the items you wanted to. It should not be considered cheating taking back something you already sort of have. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Alson · 09-22-2002, 11:58 AM

I agree. Definitely CLUA in the items.

@Melusine is an Apophis, too!
Do i smell modship?

Gromnir · 09-24-2002, 08:24 AM

I disagree! I think that each time you play should be a unique experience!

09-19-2002, 11:16 PM	#3
True_Moose Gold Dragon Join Date: June 18, 2002 Location: Wolfville, NS / Calgary, AB Age: 38 Posts: 2,563	Definitely get them back. No prob at all. Just try to resist the temptation to get items you missed, or items that you got early on in ToB. __________________ [img]\"http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/true_moose/Siggy.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />

09-20-2002, 11:23 AM	#5
Mack_Attack Osiris - Egyptian God of the Underworld Join Date: May 22, 2001 Location: Sherwoodpark,Alberta,Canada Age: 52 Posts: 2,929	I also Agree. This would not be a cheat. Go ahead and get your gear back and get playin. This is something that was out of your control. But if you still fell bad about doin it don't do it. But I would. [ 09-20-2002, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Mack_Attack ] __________________

09-22-2002, 09:12 AM	#6
Melusine Dracolisk Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 6,541	The only reason why you should reload BG2 that I can think of is that if you start a new game in TOB you cannot have/continue a romance. Apart from that, I don't see any reason why you couldn't equip the items you want using SK, after all it's your game and you decide how you want to play it. If you don't feel up to going through the entire BG2 story again, just don't do it [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"hosted/melusine.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Your voice is ambrosia

09-22-2002, 11:58 AM	#8
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	I agree. Definitely CLUA in the items. @Melusine is an Apophis, too! Do i smell modship? __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

09-24-2002, 08:24 AM	#9
Gromnir Dungeon Master Join Date: July 15, 2002 Location: Land of the Tea Pots Age: 22 Posts: 69	I disagree! I think that each time you play should be a unique experience! __________________ Thinking of death while living,<br />This is the warrior\'s way<br />thinking of pain when in pleasure.<br />keeps you alive from day to day<br /><br />Time is a great teacher, and then kills all it\'s students.<br /><br />DJG\'s first official helper and second in command. <br /><br />

09-19-2002, 08:58 PM	#1
pBluescript Dungeon Master Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 77	I had recently finished BGII and began ToB. To play ToB, I imported my group from BGII. Very early into the game (I had just entered Sarduch) my hard drive crashed and I had to do a full system restore. The upshot is, I lost all information on BGII or ToB and my imported party is now gone. Everything is gone. No, I did not save the information on disc for two reasons. #1: I didn't know I could; #2 If I knew I could I didn't know how. Is is ethical as a gamer to go to a cheat site and download all the goodies I had collected from BGII SoA and give them to my characters so they will be as well equipped now as they were at the end of BG SoA? Or will the true gamer reload SoA, replay the entire game to reacquire the XP and treasure/magic so that the game can then be imported to ToB? Truely a dilemma.

09-19-2002, 09:11 PM	#2
Lord Lothar Quintesson Join Date: August 7, 2002 Location: Oakville (next to the T.O.), Ontario, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 1,097	I would get the items from the CLUACOnsole becasue IMO a screwed up crash isn't a reason to start all over again. __________________ \"King Kong ain\'t got NOTHING on me!\"

09-22-2002, 10:41 AM	#7
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	I agree on what have been said, use SK to get the items you want. After all, you have gone through the game, having the items you wanted to. It should not be considered cheating taking back something you already sort of have. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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