Kensais, masters of defense?

Babyseal · 07-28-2006, 02:14 AM

Hi folks,

want to start a discussion here.

It is generally known that kensais are masters of offense, not defense.
Ease of use mod and item upgrade mod opens a totaly new dimenson for playing a kensai. I havnt tried it out but i believe that it is possible to achieve some insane AC. Just think of the girdle of glory(Ac -3), ring of preservation+2 etc.

Cheers!

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 07-28-2006, 02:23 AM

True, but that wasn't the intent of the game designers. Also, that AC might be insane, but imagine how insane someone's AC would be with that stuff plus enchanted full plate.

Dundee Slaytern · 07-28-2006, 03:05 AM

Not to mention Shields.

Neo the Warrior Cat · 07-28-2006, 03:44 AM

Frankly, if you cheese that way, the Kensai's AC will still be sub-par to anyone wearing that stuff PLUS the best full-plate armor offered.

Armen · 07-28-2006, 05:25 AM

now a kensai->thief (with UAI) and all that stuff and the +2AC bonus . . . although, on reflection still beaten by the high level swashie

JrKASperov · 07-28-2006, 05:45 AM

Uhm yeah, until you use that kensaithief to do dualwielding, give him some thief weapon and on the offhand either Belm or Kundane(or even the wakazashi that is usually only wieldable by monks!), slap improved haste on him and THEN use assassination, you kind of forget about things like AC really.

(that's a probable 1000+ damage in that round)

Dundee Slaytern · 07-28-2006, 06:06 AM

Try doing the same for an Assassin->Fighter.

It works better.

el_kalkylus · 07-28-2006, 02:41 PM

Assassin->Fighter gets much less hp though; about half than if you start as a kensai.

JrKASperov · 07-28-2006, 05:49 PM

Yeah I thought about that, had one minor problem: I don't like spending half of my game before both classes become active. (I assume you mean assassin lvl 21 after all)

07-28-2006, 02:23 AM	#2
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	True, but that wasn't the intent of the game designers. Also, that AC might be insane, but imagine how insane someone's AC would be with that stuff plus enchanted full plate. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

07-28-2006, 03:44 AM	#4
Neo the Warrior Cat Avatar Join Date: July 6, 2004 Location: Wilmington, North Carolina Age: 37 Posts: 528	Frankly, if you cheese that way, the Kensai's AC will still be sub-par to anyone wearing that stuff PLUS the best full-plate armor offered. __________________ \"I haven\'t the time for this!\"-Irenicus <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[mage1]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/mage1.gif\" />

07-28-2006, 05:45 AM	#6
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 39 Posts: 1,701	Uhm yeah, until you use that kensaithief to do dualwielding, give him some thief weapon and on the offhand either Belm or Kundane(or even the wakazashi that is usually only wieldable by monks!), slap improved haste on him and THEN use assassination, you kind of forget about things like AC really. (that's a probable 1000+ damage in that round) __________________ God is in the rain.

07-28-2006, 02:41 PM	#8
el_kalkylus Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: March 3, 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden, Sweden Age: 45 Posts: 669	Assassin->Fighter gets much less hp though; about half than if you start as a kensai. __________________ Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

07-28-2006, 05:49 PM	#9
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 39 Posts: 1,701	Yeah I thought about that, had one minor problem: I don't like spending half of my game before both classes become active. (I assume you mean assassin lvl 21 after all) __________________ God is in the rain.

07-28-2006, 02:14 AM	#1
Babyseal Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 27, 2006 Location: Germany Age: 55 Posts: 28	Hi folks, want to start a discussion here. It is generally known that kensais are masters of offense, not defense. Ease of use mod and item upgrade mod opens a totaly new dimenson for playing a kensai. I havnt tried it out but i believe that it is possible to achieve some insane AC. Just think of the girdle of glory(Ac -3), ring of preservation+2 etc. Cheers!

07-28-2006, 03:05 AM	#3
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Not to mention Shields.

07-28-2006, 05:25 AM	#5
Armen Symbol of Cyric Join Date: February 11, 2003 Location: UK Age: 55 Posts: 1,375	now a kensai->thief (with UAI) and all that stuff and the +2AC bonus . . . although, on reflection still beaten by the high level swashie

07-28-2006, 06:06 AM	#7
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Try doing the same for an Assassin->Fighter. It works better.

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