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Soon-to-be ex #3. Boy, it's hard being a good guy. |
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2 | 18.18% |
The soon-to-be ex-wife. Waste of oxygen. |
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2 | 18.18% |
The prosecutor. What's the number for dial-a-clue? |
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1 | 9.09% |
The kids. Why do they have to get stuck with this kind of crap? |
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2 | 18.18% |
Taxpayers. You realize you're paying for this, right? |
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5 | 45.45% |
Someone else. Your poll missed an important loser. |
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1 | 9.09% |
No one. This is awesome. Pass the popcorn ![]() |
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0 | 0% |
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Full story here.
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First, the clueless prosecutor. "The guy is a hacker," Cooper said in a voice mail response to the Free Press last week. "It was password protected, he had wonderful skills, and was highly trained. Then he downloaded them and used them in a very contentious way." I'm sorry... in no way does reading someone's email make you some kind of 1337 haxx0r. (I probably can't even spell that right ![]() Second, the issue of legality. I'd have to read the actual law to get my own sense of it, but I don't think legislators were targeting families when they wrote it. By the same token, parents can't access their children's email/facebook/gmail/etc accounts without permission (something which, BTW, the State of Michigan tells all parents that they should be doing with their children's accounts). I feel there's a big difference between accessing someone's email and penetrating their system. Thoughts?
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It won't come to anything. No different than reading someone's diary, or their email from the family computer. Once she shares a space with somebody who she is in a relationship with, all bets are off. While this would be different if he accessed her email if she did not live there.
If I give out passwords to people I am on the fence about, I quickly change them afterwards. And, I would be considered negligent if I kept all my PW's in a little book left lying around the home - like she did. You better trust someone you live with to respect your privacy if that's what you want. Some people allow their spouses access to emails, mssgs, facebook - everything. By the same token, not just facebooks accounts, but phones and text mssgs etc. I'd leave it as a "domestic". You know, when couples call the police about domestic affairs and they calm the people down but don't do anything.
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I've come across the two Michigan statutes:
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With luck, this will be laughed out of court. With more luck, the prosecutor will be reprimanded, or at least voted out of office in the next election. Sadly, I worry that it won't.
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I would guess that the wife, Clara, filed charges, which kinda forces the prosecutors to pursue the matter. I think it's a loser frankly, and if it's not, then we are all going to lose out in the end.
Clara was outplayed, and when she cuckolded her husband, he reacted by taking her child away. Game, set, match.... or not... Clara sought extra innings in the game by filing charges. Last edited by Timber Loftis; 12-28-2010 at 11:22 AM. |
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Thanks for the unofficial professional perspective, TL. I don't know that it means much, but apparently this county's prosecutor's office has a bit of a history of filing unreasonable charges against people. Some claim it's in the pursuit of name recognition for the next elections...
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I hope I can adequately relate this to the theme here. When I took a computer crime class, I learned that if a suspect refuses the police from accessing password protected areas of a computer, the police can simply ask the spouse or homeowner for this access and it be granted. The computer where the crime was committed is in the home of both people and even passwords do not prevent a spouse from having legal ownership and authority.
In another view of that same argument, any website accessed from a company computer can be retrieved and examined by the owner of that computer (the company) and all passwords are null and void. There is no privacy. It was done on property that did not belong to that individual so that makes anything done on it accessible by the management of the company. In fact, my professor said he'd been hired numerous times to go into an office after-hours and access a certain computer and snoop around to see what could be found and of course he brought along hacking tools to gain access to anything he needed to and it was the company's legal right to allow this. He said he had helped get fired many people and more than once have somebody arrested when it got into actual crime jurisdiction (at that point of snooping, you have to immediately stop where you're at and call the police and then inform the company management that from this point on, you are no longer able to proceed with anything until the proper legal authorities grant permission to proceed or they send in their own guy).
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Saw this on the news last week. My husband and I have access to each other's emails and share one as well. Not sure how this case will come out but I tend to think you're on the mark TL.
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