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Old 01-21-2003, 02:24 PM   #11
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Any game that requires a patch is buggy

As to the quests, I think they could have done a better job there. It really is all too easy to mess up a number of quests.

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Old 01-21-2003, 07:56 PM   #12
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Ok, so now I completely explored the first map and took care of the orcs and the plague, but there is one thing left, the royal graveyard. How do I gain access to it?

Oh! I cheated and duped a third antidote. I saw when I went to the third npc, that there was a choice saying "I found two antidote, but gave them to other people already" what happen when you chose it?
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Old 01-21-2003, 11:32 PM   #13
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Any game that requires a patch is buggy

As to the quests, I think they could have done a better job there. It really is all too easy to mess up a number of quests.

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There aren't that many PC games that do not require patch. On the contrary, the size of the path file is relatively small, which indicate that the bugs are not so serious. Some games have patch file as large as 10-20 MB. Anyway, I do agree that this game has some bugs, but I think it is not as bad as most games. Anyway, each of us is entire to our own opinion and IMO, the quests are well designed and I think the developers would have a harder time to design quests that do not interfere with each other unless they put in a lot of "find-and-fetch" quests, which IMO is a complete waste of my time...BG1 anyone???

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Ok, so now I completely explored the first map and took care of the orcs and the plague, but there is one thing left, the royal graveyard. How do I gain access to it?

Oh! I cheated and duped a third antidote. I saw when I went to the third npc, that there was a choice saying "I found two antidote, but gave them to other people already" what happen when you chose it?
There is a small hut(?) in the graveyard, go in and kill all the ghosts, then pull the level near the end of the catacomb. This will unlock the door to the royal grave.

Yeah, I pickpocketed the last antidote and gave it to the 3rd victim too. Actually it doesn't matter much if you manage to save him/her because there isn't any rewards or consequences.

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Old 01-21-2003, 11:52 PM   #14
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No, I mean the gate to the royal graveyard is locked, and I can't pick the lock. I didn't get in it, yet.

I think you get 20k xp for each of the 3 guys you save from the plague. I was hoping for at least 1 rep point each. And I only got 1 rep point for exposing the doctor.

Maybe it's because I took care of the orcs first. I got 5 points for that. If the doctor had given 5 points too, that would have been a lot in such a short time.
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Old 01-22-2003, 12:03 AM   #15
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No, I mean the gate to the royal graveyard is locked, and I can't pick the lock. I didn't get in it, yet.

Oh, in that case, the gate will only be unlocked after you escaped from Iona's dungeon, which is tied to the Stormfist castle quest.

I think you get 20k xp for each of the 3 guys you save from the plague. I was hoping for at least 1 rep point each. And I only got 1 rep point for exposing the doctor.

Hmm... you might be right. I didn't notice the XP bonus. Anyway, it is good to acquire "wisdom" early in the game, thus maximizing the XP accumulations.

Maybe it's because I took care of the orcs first. I got 5 points for that. If the doctor had given 5 points too, that would have been a lot in such a short time.

There is no choice but to take care of the Orc first. Otherwise the quest will be broken.

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Old 01-22-2003, 12:14 AM   #16
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I have maxed wisdom for my level.
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Old 01-22-2003, 12:47 AM   #17
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The designers were expecting players to choose which two victims would get the antidotes. However, many bright gamers (is there any other kind? ) went the pickpocket route, thereby saving all three and getting extra xp as well.

The game is a little odd in the way it hands out rep points. Maybe they did that so you'd be sure to complete as many quests as possible.

I never bothered with wisdom myself; it doesn't really do all that much for you.

By the way, I think you mentioned having a mage. If you haven't already, start working on hell spikes. I know that spell doesn't sound like much, but you will be needing it later in the game when fire and lightning aren't too effective.

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Old 01-22-2003, 12:57 AM   #18
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The designers were expecting players to choose which two victims would get the antidotes. However, many bright gamers (is there any other kind? ) went the pickpocket route, thereby saving all three and getting extra xp as well.

The game is a little odd in the way it hands out rep points. Maybe they did that so you'd be sure to complete as many quests as possible.

I never bothered with wisdom myself; it doesn't really do all that much for you.

By the way, I think you mentioned having a mage. If you haven't already, start working on hell spikes. I know that spell doesn't sound like much, but you will be needing it later in the game when fire and lightning aren't too effective.

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I went the route of the cheater, somehow, every time I try to pickpocket someone, they catch me, even if my skill is high enough.

Yes, rep points distribution does not make much sense. Sometimes, you get points for things that are not so special, and then you do something big, and get none.

Wisdom is usefull, I think mine give me 15% more xp, now. (Or was it 10%)

I think I have 2-3 levels in Hell Spikes, but I really like lightning so far, it's fast, and never miss. I also learned that last elemental spell, that do Lightning, Fire and Poison damage, but it's not as strong as my Maxed Lightning bolt spell, for now.

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Old 01-22-2003, 01:59 AM   #19
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I have maxed wisdom for my level.
Go get some items with "wisdom" enchantment. I Maxed out (level 5) "wisdom" at character level 22.

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Old 01-22-2003, 07:25 AM   #20
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Reputation seems to have only 1 use in the game. that is to enable you to get a key of Nericon Garden from Merchant Blake.
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