How do you protect the Archer? - Page 2

True_Moose · 07-22-2003, 11:24 PM

Archers are rangers...rangers in light armour can hide in shadows...it's maxed out about halfway through the game...hint hint

Hit and run's a whole lot easier now. [img]smile.gif[/img]

BaRoN NiGhT · 07-22-2003, 11:51 PM

yeah, i think the hit and run strategy is the only way.but the problem is, that bg2 is a half-realtime-half-turn-based-rpg-game.thats whats really annoying about this strategy.hit and run is more enjoyable in real time rpg. [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] like the amazon in D2, they r played like that.u have to do like that b'cause in bg2 or in D2 u cant melee attack someone with good power while using an archer/amazon.and one thing in bg2, if your enemy gets the chance to get too close to you, while you are using a bow, your enemy will receive a +4 to his attack.

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Xen · 07-23-2003, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
I think they over-powered her if you ask me.

I played on Insane and i had a very tough time with her and the rest of the gang.
Oh and i hate those Demons with Telekinesis too...

But this is SoA forum so i will stop wirting now...

Gangrell · 07-23-2003, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xen:

quote:
Originally posted by Gangrell:
I think they over-powered her if you ask me.

I played on Insane and i had a very tough time with her and the rest of the gang.
Oh and i hate those Demons with Telekinesis too...

But this is SoA forum so i will stop wirting now... [/QUOTE]Heh, try Improved Demogorgan, it's hell in disguise [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img]

Xen · 07-23-2003, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:

quote:
Originally posted by Xen:

quote:
Originally posted by Gangrell:
I think they over-powered her if you ask me.

I played on Insane and i had a very tough time with her and the rest of the gang.
Oh and i hate those Demons with Telekinesis too...

But this is SoA forum so i will stop wirting now... [/QUOTE]Heh, try Improved Demogorgan, it's hell in disguise [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]Oh I did...
Improved Baboon VS. Cavalier,Tanshia and ToB NPC...

It was hell on wheels not in disguise.

Really good but tough fight...

Gangrell · 07-23-2003, 06:08 AM

(Gets the feeling Dundee is going to move this to the ToB forum [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] )

Now don't get me wrong, I did expect more from the original Demogorgan, him being the Prince of Demons. But Improved? Ahh, spawning instant armies, Immune to Time Stop, Imprisonment, it was madness [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img]

Still beat the Improved version once though

Xen · 07-23-2003, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
(Gets the feeling Dundee is going to move this to the ToB forum [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] )

Now don't get me wrong, I did expect more from the original Demogorgan, him being the Prince of Demons. But Improved? Ahh, spawning instant armies, Immune to Time Stop, Imprisonment, it was madness [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img]

Still beat the Improved version once though

Congratualtions! [img]graemlins/thewave.gif[/img]
Let`s stop talking about this now ok?

Gangrell · 07-23-2003, 06:18 AM

Yea alright [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Jim · 07-23-2003, 10:35 AM

It's possible to get a very decent AC with an archer. First I can figure is -7 for SoA (within chapter 2) and -10 for ToB. Then there's the armour of faith priest spell, which will potentially absorb 25% of damage (fill all your level 1 slots with this), and then there's the certain ToB HLA which will boost this substantially further.

Sure, your enemies will attack you with a +4 bonus if you have your bow equipped, but there is a simply solution....switch to a melee weapon when the enemy closes in. It won't always be feasible to run away, often you will find yourself surrounded or battling in a small area.

The archer may only be allowed to spend 1 point on any non-ranged weapon, but this only means losing -1 to hit, -2 to damage and -0.5 APR. The archer will still recieve the bonus attacks from levels 7 and 13, and the 1 point will nullify the -1 to hit and -1 to damage penalties, as well as allowing the warrior APR bonuses to apply to the weapon (otherwise you will be limited to 1 APR - the 1 point is still very handy indeed).

Simply equip a larger 2-Handed weapon (Halberd/2-H sword/Powerful Staff), and you can use the quick weapon slots to rapidly swap between them (messing around with shields/and dual wield combos every time using the inventory screen will become tedious). Plus, you can invest a further 2 points into 2-H weapon style to recieve massive speed bonuses, recover a +1 damage bonus, and get an improved critical. An archer can still be a formidable melee opponent

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Xen · 07-23-2003, 10:47 AM

Thanks for the advice Jim!

07-22-2003, 11:24 PM	#11
True_Moose Gold Dragon Join Date: June 18, 2002 Location: Wolfville, NS / Calgary, AB Age: 38 Posts: 2,563	Archers are rangers...rangers in light armour can hide in shadows...it's maxed out about halfway through the game...hint hint Hit and run's a whole lot easier now. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/true_moose/Siggy.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />

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07-22-2003, 11:51 PM	#12
BaRoN NiGhT Avatar Join Date: June 16, 2003 Location: Home Posts: 536	yeah, i think the hit and run strategy is the only way.but the problem is, that bg2 is a half-realtime-half-turn-based-rpg-game.thats whats really annoying about this strategy.hit and run is more enjoyable in real time rpg. [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] like the amazon in D2, they r played like that.u have to do like that b'cause in bg2 or in D2 u cant melee attack someone with good power while using an archer/amazon.and one thing in bg2, if your enemy gets the chance to get too close to you, while you are using a bow, your enemy will receive a +4 to his attack. --------------------

07-23-2003, 06:08 AM	#16
Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 38 Posts: 4,835	(Gets the feeling Dundee is going to move this to the ToB forum [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] ) Now don't get me wrong, I did expect more from the original Demogorgan, him being the Prince of Demons. But Improved? Ahh, spawning instant armies, Immune to Time Stop, Imprisonment, it was madness [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] Still beat the Improved version once though

07-23-2003, 06:18 AM	#18
Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 38 Posts: 4,835	Yea alright [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

07-23-2003, 10:35 AM	#19
Jim Quintesson Join Date: May 1, 2001 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England Age: 45 Posts: 1,088	It's possible to get a very decent AC with an archer. First I can figure is -7 for SoA (within chapter 2) and -10 for ToB. Then there's the armour of faith priest spell, which will potentially absorb 25% of damage (fill all your level 1 slots with this), and then there's the certain ToB HLA which will boost this substantially further. Sure, your enemies will attack you with a +4 bonus if you have your bow equipped, but there is a simply solution....switch to a melee weapon when the enemy closes in. It won't always be feasible to run away, often you will find yourself surrounded or battling in a small area. The archer may only be allowed to spend 1 point on any non-ranged weapon, but this only means losing -1 to hit, -2 to damage and -0.5 APR. The archer will still recieve the bonus attacks from levels 7 and 13, and the 1 point will nullify the -1 to hit and -1 to damage penalties, as well as allowing the warrior APR bonuses to apply to the weapon (otherwise you will be limited to 1 APR - the 1 point is still very handy indeed). Simply equip a larger 2-Handed weapon (Halberd/2-H sword/Powerful Staff), and you can use the quick weapon slots to rapidly swap between them (messing around with shields/and dual wield combos every time using the inventory screen will become tedious). Plus, you can invest a further 2 points into 2-H weapon style to recieve massive speed bonuses, recover a +1 damage bonus, and get an improved critical. An archer can still be a formidable melee opponent .

07-23-2003, 10:47 AM	#20
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Thanks for the advice Jim!

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