Advice on New Character - please

[Alson]

Originally posted by daan: Well.. to be honest I sortof forgot the fighter/mage [img]tongue.gif[/img] Although a ranger/cleric is probably protected from more stuff -longer- .. thats hardly a bonus since a figher/mage doesnt fight long fights.

You nailed it!

I guess a well played fighter/mage would indeed be more powerfull against most SoA and ToB enemies .. although I'd be interested to see who wins in a 1 on 1. [img]graemlins/dance2.gif[/img] Ranger/cleric <---> Fighter/mage [img]graemlins/dance2.gif[/img] I'd go for the ranger/cleric personally .. if well decked out, I see very little oppertunities for the Fighter/mage to hurt the ranger/cleric.

Between having a better weapon selection (Ravager +6, anyone?), more HP (Tenser's comes to mind), and Improved Haste, i don't think i'm exaggerating by saying that the Fighter/Mage has a much better offense. And don't even get me started about Chain Contingencies, Triggers, Mislead, Wilting and the like. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Now... Whehter Free Action, DUHM, AoF, Chant, Bless, Regeneration, SotA, Chaotic Commands, Champoin's Strength and Rightous Magic are really better than Spell Immunity : Abjuration + Divination + Illusion (Nature's Beauty and Insect Plague... where's thy sting? [img]tongue.gif[/img] ), Blur, Mirror Image, Stoneskin, Fireshield : Blue + Red, Pro-Normal-Weapons, Pro-Energy+Elements and finally - Pro-Magic-Weapons... I'll leave for you to decide. My opinion is quite obvious.

Oh... one thing slipped my mind. Improved Alacrity.

But I'm anxiously awaiting your reply [img]smile.gif[/img]

I know the feeling. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[daan]

Well .. I'd rather welcome you hitting me improved hasted if i took any damage at all from whatever you try to sling at me spell-wise .. since I'm quite positive its going to heal me anywayz [img]smile.gif[/img]

You quite simply just dont have the required sheer amount of spells it takes to kill me .. neither do you have the time. All your fancy spell-protections will run out eventually while my complete immunity to any physical harm, and partial immunity to any magic damage lasts a whole lot longer.

Hardiness lasts quite a while, and you can have quite a few of them.

Now Im going to do you a favor and not slap on the cloack of cheese, since that would kill any doubts and leave little room for argument.

The battle in my opinion would be a battle of endurance .. who lasts longer .. and since the Ranger/cleric has longer lasting protections, I'd take him.
Once he survives the initial unslaught a fighter/mage can unleash -and he will-,he's safe.

[Timber Loftis]

Well, I'm already playing a Kensai/Mage who's mage skills are getting really impressive. So, a F/M is likely not what I'm looking for.

I've never soloed - and likely never will. However, I probably will try to run a bare-bones 3-4 person team (3 core with extra slots for NPC-specific quests).

I want something other than: thief, straight fighter, F/M, or ranger.

[daan]

Well, as said before .. the sorcerer *is* incredibly fun. You should atleast have used him once,wether it be solo or in a party . That really doesnt matter if you have ToB ,.. because eventually your sorcerer will be killing people/enemies/wildlife/bosses so incredibly fast that you can hardly call the 5 people standing behind you part of your group [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Timber Loftis]

Okay, could you or some other kind soul give me the link to Dundee's super-duper sorcerer's spell book list, cause I'm gonna miss having 20 spells per level in my spellbook.

[Annatar]

Here ya go:

Party Sorc.

And:

Lonely Solo Sorc.

[Timber Loftis]

What a pathetically limited selection of spells. Oh well, the sheer *volume* of them you can memorize makes it worth it. Thanks so much, Annatar.

[Annatar]

You do not need a great variety of spells, with the right spell choose you can create mayhem & destruction on every citizen of the Faerun... trust me on this one .

[ 03-12-2003, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

[Xero279]

I would suggest a sorcerer, possibly solo. looks like uve got a few open games though, so if it were *me* i would finish those first, then make my solo sorc and blow the crap out of everythng that moved

[Alson]

Originally posted by daan: You quite simply just dont have the required sheer amount of spells it takes to kill me .. neither do you have the time. All your fancy spell-protections will run out eventually while my complete immunity to any physical harm, and partial immunity to any magic damage lasts a whole lot longer. Hardiness lasts quite a while, and you can have quite a few of them.

Luckily, i can dispel them. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Considering we're having a fair match - we should be of equal levels. That would give me 50% to dispel your buffs per casting. If you feel like doing the math, figure out the chances you have to survive a heavy bombard of x7 Remove Magic (3 from Spell Sequencer, 1 from Contingency and another 3 from Chain Contingency) all in one round.

And before you'll try... Spell Immunity: Abjuration. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

It'll take me merely one round to strip you of all your buffs (barring the 0.5^7 chance you would have to survive all the Remove Magic spells)... and we both know that an unbuffed Ranger/Cleric stands no chance.