How do you protect the fighter ? - Page 2

Dundee Slaytern · 03-05-2003, 06:16 AM

Ah... but you created your Monk in ToB. A Monk from SoA at maximum level, fully decked out and with his bonus stats, will be a different story.

Leslie · 03-05-2003, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
It is feasible to equip a Warrior to tank for you even on Insane Difficulty with the Tactics Mod installed. I dunno where you got those 80 damage hits from... but last I recalled, Admantium Golems do not roam the grounds of Waukeen Promenade.

TNX for the advice, but check this fight - should be the easiest

Bregg and Cohrvale hitting Jaheira:

Cohrvale 26 damage
Bregg 20 damage
Cohrvale 30 damage

(no critical hits)

That 80 damage I got - "you get hit twice" - with a little stronger opponents.

Gangrell · 03-05-2003, 07:16 AM

Hehe, I can tell it'll be awhile before I ever throw my game on insane

Dundee Slaytern · 03-05-2003, 09:19 AM

Ah, you mean in two hits. I thought you meant a single hit. 20-30 damage is pretty normal on Insane. It is the backstabs that will kill you, not the normal hits( unless you are meleeing an Adamantium Golem or something

).

AC is easy to improve though, and as I said, short of bosses, most enemies will require a Critical Hit to touch your solo tank.

Rataxes · 03-05-2003, 09:38 AM

Most of the tougher melee enemies will actually regularly score hits above 40 on Insane. Greater Mummies and Liches (with BBoD) can for instance cause damage in the 70-80 range on a good hit. Dragons also hurt badly and the Improved Mindflayers have some of the most devastating attacks I've ever seen. A single Ballistic attack downed a completely healthy lvl 21 Minsc, causing somewhere around 140-150 dmg.

Dundee Slaytern · 03-05-2003, 11:41 AM

Greater Mummies and Liches are not exactly what I would term as 'normal' enemies, but in any case, PfUndead Scrolls.

Dragons are scary in melee yes, but they spend the first few rounds casting spells. A Warrior can down a Dragon in two rounds, barring certain ToB ones which require a bit more tactics( but still doable, although you need a lot of potions and scrolls).

Mind Flayers are problematic I will agree, and a solo Warrior will be hard-pressed to defeat them easily, but in any case, Greater Deathblow( ToB HLA).

It will instant kill even the Improved Mind Flayers, and it ignores their magic resistance too. A highly under-appreciated HLA. Works against Beholders too!

Too much hype for Critical Hit and Greater Whirlwind.

Leslie · 03-05-2003, 03:28 PM

Talkin' about Mind Flayers - does Chaotic Commands (priest spell) make you completely immune to their nonphysical attacks (psionics)?

Not sure - becuase the last time I played I had Kensai/Mage and Ranger/Cleric both completely buffed, improved hasted and supported by Improved Bard song (from somewhere in the distance [img]smile.gif[/img] )and they cleared ther lair in 5 minutes - no tactics just rush in and kick some butt.

What do you think Ulitharid thinks, when he sees 12 attacks in 6 seconds - using Fury, Sanchu, Flail of Ages and Defender of Easthaven )

(heh, had to write that) [img]smile.gif[/img]

Xen · 03-05-2003, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie:
Talkin' about Mind Flayers - does Chaotic Commands (priest spell) make you completely immune to their nonphysical attacks (psionics)?

Not sure - becuase the last time I played I had Kensai/Mage and Ranger/Cleric both completely buffed, improved hasted and supported by Improved Bard song (from somewhere in the distance [img]smile.gif[/img] )and they cleared ther lair in 5 minutes - no tactics just rush in and kick some butt.

What do you think Ulitharid thinks, when he sees 12 attacks in 6 seconds - using Fury, Sanchu, Flail of Ages and Defender of Easthaven )

(heh, had to write that) [img]smile.gif[/img]

You probably fought 14 attacks.
Cheers [img]smile.gif[/img]

Xen

Leslie · 03-05-2003, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xen:

(heh, had to write that) [img]smile.gif[/img] [/qb]

You probably fought 14 attacks.
Cheers [img]smile.gif[/img]

Xen

[/QB][/QUOTE]

Yeah, forgot that - got carried away in excitement - it was the most satisfying
run through that nasty lair though !

It usually takes a lot of concentration, reloads and time.

TNX, XEN !

Brennihelvete · 03-05-2003, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Ah... but you created your Monk in ToB. A Monk from SoA at maximum level, fully decked out and with his bonus stats, will be a different story.

Of course. I know that, I just wanted to see how far I got...which was never really far

...

03-05-2003, 09:38 AM	#15
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	Most of the tougher melee enemies will actually regularly score hits above 40 on Insane. Greater Mummies and Liches (with BBoD) can for instance cause damage in the 70-80 range on a good hit. Dragons also hurt badly and the Improved Mindflayers have some of the most devastating attacks I've ever seen. A single Ballistic attack downed a completely healthy lvl 21 Minsc, causing somewhere around 140-150 dmg. __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

03-05-2003, 03:28 PM	#17
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	Talkin' about Mind Flayers - does Chaotic Commands (priest spell) make you completely immune to their nonphysical attacks (psionics)? Not sure - becuase the last time I played I had Kensai/Mage and Ranger/Cleric both completely buffed, improved hasted and supported by Improved Bard song (from somewhere in the distance [img]smile.gif[/img] )and they cleared ther lair in 5 minutes - no tactics just rush in and kick some butt. What do you think Ulitharid thinks, when he sees 12 attacks in 6 seconds - using Fury, Sanchu, Flail of Ages and Defender of Easthaven ) (heh, had to write that) [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

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03-05-2003, 06:16 AM	#11
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Ah... but you created your Monk in ToB. A Monk from SoA at maximum level, fully decked out and with his bonus stats, will be a different story.

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Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 38 Posts: 4,835	Hehe, I can tell it'll be awhile before I ever throw my game on insane

03-05-2003, 09:19 AM	#14
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Ah, you mean in two hits. I thought you meant a single hit. 20-30 damage is pretty normal on Insane. It is the backstabs that will kill you, not the normal hits( unless you are meleeing an Adamantium Golem or something ). AC is easy to improve though, and as I said, short of bosses, most enemies will require a Critical Hit to touch your solo tank.

03-05-2003, 11:41 AM	#16
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Greater Mummies and Liches are not exactly what I would term as 'normal' enemies, but in any case, PfUndead Scrolls. Dragons are scary in melee yes, but they spend the first few rounds casting spells. A Warrior can down a Dragon in two rounds, barring certain ToB ones which require a bit more tactics( but still doable, although you need a lot of potions and scrolls). Mind Flayers are problematic I will agree, and a solo Warrior will be hard-pressed to defeat them easily, but in any case, Greater Deathblow( ToB HLA). It will instant kill even the Improved Mind Flayers, and it ignores their magic resistance too. A highly under-appreciated HLA. Works against Beholders too! Too much hype for Critical Hit and Greater Whirlwind.

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