The Goth Culture

[purre]

Originally posted by The Hierophant: Right, 'ignore you' it is then. No time for attention-seeking crybabies. See ya later luv.

oh,honey..that was so lovely..you make me cry..I mean..happy tears just flow out of my eyes... Vitun paska [img]tongue.gif[/img]

you just dont get it,it's not the attention,it's the lies..the talk behind backs..

[Iron_Ranger]

Originally posted by WOLFGIR: They split into the westgoths?

Would that be the Ostrogoths and Visigoths? Or something similar to that..Hmm, I think the Ostrogoths we in the west and the Visi in the east..Or vice versa..I dont know really.

And Purre, alot of people feel they get ignored here at IW. Buutt..I suggest that you delete or edit you post if you want to stay here.

Kiitos (sorry I have an english keyboard so I dont have all the proper pronunciation marks)

[Xero279]

Originally posted by Luvian: Quote: Originally posted by Niadh: A large bit is todays culture where people dress how they do because they think they have to because of the mucisc they listen too, examples are 10 year olds in hoodies and baggy trousers. The overall idea has been lost- originally it was to be different, but now that different is the same. I see this at school all the time. I listen to some heavier music, but I dress "normally" as in not in some sort of sub culture, jeans and jumper etc.

No kidding, I went to the mall the other days, and ALL the kids where clothed like that. Do they think they look cool, all wearing the same clothing?

They probably don't even realise it. I wonder what happened, when I was young, we didn't all dress in the same way and follow new trends.[/QUOTE]you all are so quick to judge people.. so what if someone likes baggy pants and a hoodie? does that mean they are no one but a mindless fashion drone with nothing to say? all of you posting here.. you condemm people by what they wear and say they all look the same so they cant rebel. ive only got one thing to say to all you..

... i hope i never grow up to be like you.

im only 15 f*cken years old, yet i can understand that just because people look a certain way like some other poser people doensnt mean they have no cause, nothing to rebel against.. nothing to fight.....

most of you are over twice my age.. so why cant you get it? you have to look past the clothes, the skin, the make up, the fashion. what is this so hard?

oppresion from people like you is the reason we fight....

Xero

[ 02-09-2003, 12:52 AM: Message edited by: Xero279 ]

[Luvian]

Originally posted by Xero279: you all are so quick to judge people.. so what if someone likes baggy pants and a hoodie? does that mean they are no one but a mindless fashion drone with nothing to say? all of you posting here.. you condemm people by what they wear and say they all look the same so they cant rebel. ive only got one thing to say to all you.. ... i hope i never grow up to be like you. im only 15 smurfing years old, yet i can understand that just because people look a certain way like some other poser people doensnt mean they have no cause, nothing to rebel against.. nothing to fight..... most of you are over twice my age.. so why cant you get it? you have to look past the clothes, the skin, the make up, the fashion. what is this so hard? oppresion from people like you is the reason we fight.... Xero

Xero... it's not that we don't understand, it is that we do. Clothing does not make a rebel. You could be wearing punk clothing, jeans and a white shirt, a suit, anything, and be a rebel. Rebel is something you are, not something you wear.

You don't need clothing to be rebel, all those people thinking so are misguided.

And if you really want to look different, don't follow trend. Who do you think look different? The guy who wear clothing worn by every rapers in video clip, and that is sold for 100+$ in most big name shops, or the guy who has totally unique clothing, that he got nowhere in particular, but he wear it because he like it?

Just go to your school, and take a look at people's clothing. Count every people who wear gothic clothing, count the people who wear baggy clothing, tell me how many of each you can count in a day. Do it in the mall, too. You'll find out that most of the people are clothed that way.

As I said, being rebel is not about clothing and look, it's about actions and way of thinking.

(put his mod hat) And by the way, watch your language. (remove mod hat)

[Luvian]

Oh! And by the way, I'm not saying following trends is bad, do it if you want, but don't think it make you special.

[Xero279]

i dont follow trends. ive had my fav. pair of ripped up baggy pants and black hoodie for a while, yet i see kids with hoodies at school, and some with baggy pants. im saying it doesnt matter at ALL what you wear, its what you stand for. people on this topic were complaining about how lots of kids dress alike and they must have no meaning or cause of rebellion. im saying look past that, why do we care so much what clothes people wear? im sick of dealing with people talking about that "if you were these clothes, you must be a follower because everyone has those" so "you have to wear original clothes to rebel". its not about that.

[Luvian]

That's the point, you don't need clothing to rebel, that's what I was pointing at, and I also think that was what the others where saying, too.

I was complaining about the people who believe so. I was also complaining about the people not being original.

[Xero279]

out of the 500+ people at my school,only about 30 at the most dress the same way as me. everyone else wears abercrombie and fitch, american eagle, or "rap music" clothes. they can dress "goth" all they want and not have anything to rebel against, and thats fine. same goes the other way, someone can dress "preppy" and rebel all the live long day. you dont have to dress different or in a certain way at all to speak out and rebel.

[Xero279]

Originally posted by Luvian: That's the point, you don't need clothing to rebel, that's what I was pointing at, and I also think that was what the others where saying, too. I was complaining about the people who believe so. I was also complaining about the people not being original.

we are complaining about the same thing, even if it doesnt look like it. that first post i made was pointing out to all the people that think you have to dress a certain way to do something, or if you dress this way you are a poser, all that. im sick of people thinking like that.. maybe the people here werent talking like that, it seemed like it to me. i felt i needed to speak out and correct that.

[Luvian]

Exactly, but we are getting redundant...