Turn Undead

Archaon · 03-07-2001, 11:00 PM

Ive never really understood turning undead. theres no reference in the manual about what it actually does. so what does it actually do? are there any downsides?

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Master Of Sorcery... Slave To Darkness

Raistlin · 03-07-2001, 11:03 PM

It causes them to literally turn around and go the other way. I never really used it much in BGII. If I remember right, the chance, the number of creatures affected and the duration are all dependent upon the level of the caster. As far as I know there is no downside.

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Balance

Gabriel · 03-07-2001, 11:08 PM

A high level Good priest should be able to destory weak undead with it and a high level evil should gain control of them.

03-07-2001, 11:11 PM

TURNING UNDEAD IS AWESOME! It works best when your cleric is at higher levels and Palidins also aquire this attribute at higher levels I believe? clerics are desighned for using this battling technique though and can really save your can in some truely heated battles with lot's of undead. think of it as like a person fighting a vampire with a cross! and like I said at high levels a priest can actually instantly destroy an undead creature!!(making them EXPLODE)

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Walk lightly my friend.

Strahd Von Zarovich · 03-07-2001, 11:15 PM

Turning undead is the chaneling of the gods power throught a priest to disrupt a creature's conection to the Negative energy plane:

Every undead (Save Mummies) is connected to the negative energy Plane basicly it what gives the undead the power to walk after it's dead. Intelligent Undead's like Vampires and liches can Draw from the Negative Energy plane (Thta's why they have cool power like Lv Drain).

A priest is a severvant of a god, That god has a certain view on the Undead (some evil gods love undead, others detest them, same for the good gods and neutral).

Gods that hate the undead do this(Ex: Helm, lolth)

When a priest turn undead he is calling opoun his god to chanel power throught him. The higher Lv the priest is the more power can be chanaled. This power weakens (or severes) the link the undead has with the negative energy plane. So the undead flees to avoid loosing power or the god chanaled enghou power to uterly destroy the link wich kills the undead.

God who don't mind undead do this(Ex:Torm, Shar)

It's basicly the same save instead of destroying the link, the god gives to power to the priest to control this link to the negative energy plane, so the priest now commands the undead if powerful enghou or the undead flees in fear of being dominated.

The only disadvatage is a priest cannot attack or cast spell while turning undead. In the old ad&d rules the priest even had to have his holy symble in hand to turn. If he lost it to bad he lost the power to turn.

well thath the long way to explain it I guess nei?

03-07-2001, 11:18 PM

Strahd Von
Zarovich,
Man someone has definately done thier homework! Nice!

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Walk lightly my friend.

Nostron · 03-08-2001, 02:58 AM

Hey, turning undead is great, here's a tip, make ur cleric take an invisibility potion or have ur mage turn your cleric invisible. then turn undead and walk around blowing up all the vampire and mummies all over the place. it's a great sight.

ps. u have to be in a high enough level to make the undead blow up.

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Mess with the best Die like the Rest!!

03-08-2001, 03:55 AM

Additionally, if you have an evil cleric (such as Viconia), sou CONTROL undead, rather than TURN them

Dimension X · 03-08-2001, 05:40 AM

Hehe...

You know in Chapter 6, when we had the final Bodhi encounter?

Turn Undead (Lvl 17) rocked in the main room...

The Fledging Vampires got toasted.

Haha...(I'm a sadist)

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A Drawn Sword;
A Trickle Of Blood;
The Tempest Is Brewing.
Nemesis....

Lillie · 03-08-2001, 10:11 AM

Man, I *LOVE* Turn Undead.

Nothing like making those vampires go "poof" - especially as payback for when they owned me in Chapter 2

I'm currently playing IWD (almost in Chapter 4) - lots of undead there as well. Having my cleric "turn" them has worked out great!

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03-07-2001, 11:00 PM	#1
Archaon Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: March 2, 2001 Location: Victoria, B.C. Canada Posts: 43	Ive never really understood turning undead. theres no reference in the manual about what it actually does. so what does it actually do? are there any downsides? ------------------ Master Of Sorcery... Slave To Darkness

03-07-2001, 11:03 PM	#2
Raistlin Manshoon Join Date: January 8, 2001 Posts: 164	It causes them to literally turn around and go the other way. I never really used it much in BGII. If I remember right, the chance, the number of creatures affected and the duration are all dependent upon the level of the caster. As far as I know there is no downside. ------------------ Balance

03-07-2001, 11:08 PM	#3
Gabriel Emerald Dragon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: England Age: 42 Posts: 920	A high level Good priest should be able to destory weak undead with it and a high level evil should gain control of them.

03-07-2001, 11:11 PM	#4
sirgwayne Guest Posts: n/a	TURNING UNDEAD IS AWESOME! It works best when your cleric is at higher levels and Palidins also aquire this attribute at higher levels I believe? clerics are desighned for using this battling technique though and can really save your can in some truely heated battles with lot's of undead. think of it as like a person fighting a vampire with a cross! and like I said at high levels a priest can actually instantly destroy an undead creature!!(making them EXPLODE) ------------------ Walk lightly my friend.

03-07-2001, 11:15 PM	#5
Strahd Von Zarovich Drow Warrior Join Date: March 2, 2001 Location: Ottawa Posts: 266	Turning undead is the chaneling of the gods power throught a priest to disrupt a creature's conection to the Negative energy plane: Every undead (Save Mummies) is connected to the negative energy Plane basicly it what gives the undead the power to walk after it's dead. Intelligent Undead's like Vampires and liches can Draw from the Negative Energy plane (Thta's why they have cool power like Lv Drain). A priest is a severvant of a god, That god has a certain view on the Undead (some evil gods love undead, others detest them, same for the good gods and neutral). Gods that hate the undead do this(Ex: Helm, lolth) When a priest turn undead he is calling opoun his god to chanel power throught him. The higher Lv the priest is the more power can be chanaled. This power weakens (or severes) the link the undead has with the negative energy plane. So the undead flees to avoid loosing power or the god chanaled enghou power to uterly destroy the link wich kills the undead. God who don't mind undead do this(Ex:Torm, Shar) It's basicly the same save instead of destroying the link, the god gives to power to the priest to control this link to the negative energy plane, so the priest now commands the undead if powerful enghou or the undead flees in fear of being dominated. The only disadvatage is a priest cannot attack or cast spell while turning undead. In the old ad&d rules the priest even had to have his holy symble in hand to turn. If he lost it to bad he lost the power to turn. well thath the long way to explain it I guess nei?

03-07-2001, 11:18 PM	#6
sirgwayne Guest Posts: n/a	Strahd Von Zarovich, Man someone has definately done thier homework! Nice! ------------------ Walk lightly my friend.

03-08-2001, 02:58 AM	#7
Nostron Manshoon Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: California Posts: 205	Hey, turning undead is great, here's a tip, make ur cleric take an invisibility potion or have ur mage turn your cleric invisible. then turn undead and walk around blowing up all the vampire and mummies all over the place. it's a great sight. ps. u have to be in a high enough level to make the undead blow up. ------------------ Mess with the best Die like the Rest!!

03-08-2001, 03:55 AM	#8
Lord Shield Guest Posts: n/a	Additionally, if you have an evil cleric (such as Viconia), sou CONTROL undead, rather than TURN them

03-08-2001, 05:40 AM	#9
Dimension X Dungeon Master Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 62	Hehe... You know in Chapter 6, when we had the final Bodhi encounter? Turn Undead (Lvl 17) rocked in the main room... The Fledging Vampires got toasted. Haha...(I'm a sadist) ------------------ A Drawn Sword; A Trickle Of Blood; The Tempest Is Brewing. Nemesis....

03-08-2001, 10:11 AM	#10
Lillie Dungeon Master Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Candlekeep ;) Posts: 62	Man, I LOVE Turn Undead. Nothing like making those vampires go "poof" - especially as payback for when they owned me in Chapter 2 I'm currently playing IWD (almost in Chapter 4) - lots of undead there as well. Having my cleric "turn" them has worked out great!

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