Staff of Magi (you mages know this right?!)

Suzaku · 01-08-2002, 10:37 AM

If you've cast Invisibility or Improved ", or equipped Staff of Magi, cast Non-detection, can spells like True Sight reveal you, like vs. other mages? I've never tried this, but can anyone save me some time?

J'aran · 01-08-2002, 10:44 AM

No, (Improved) Invisibility combined with Non-Detection renders you immune to all illusion/invisibility-dispelling spells. So you'll remain invisible until you either attack or cast a spell.
That's why the Staff of the Magi and the Cloak of Non-Detection are such a powerful combo of items.

daan · 01-08-2002, 10:47 AM

Though for some reason it never worked with me, it has worked for others......
Indeed, when you wear the cloak of non-detection and are invisible , spells such a True sight do not reveal you, neither can creatures that have a natural ability to see invisible other creatures see you.

Be carefull though,
the cloak only functions when you act in a non-agressive manner.
Once you cast a spell or try to attack, you're invisibility becomes dispellable again.

Note too, that natural-invis.detect creatures might hear you, and will attack anywayz (not sure, but i thought i heard something like that)
hope it helped [img]smile.gif[/img]

Melusine · 01-08-2002, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by daan:

Note too, that natural-invis.detect creatures might hear you, and will attack anywayz (not sure, but i thought i heard something like that)
hope it helped [img]smile.gif[/img]

You are correct:
Spoiler concerning Nalia's Keep
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The "Head Troll" Torgal can smell you even when invisible + non-detectable.

Sir Kenyth · 01-08-2002, 12:43 PM

There is one spell that negates non-detect. I think its "Oracle".

Tim Tam · 01-08-2002, 09:31 PM

Non-Detection protects against Detect Invisibility and Invisibility Purge but not against any other revealing spells, such as Oracle, True Sight or Detect Illusion. The Cloak of Non-Detection however casts a non-dispellable version of Non-Detection over the wearer that nothing can remove. Only the Cloak can maintain invisibility against the higher illusion dispelling spells, the spell itself is actually quite crappy.

01-08-2002, 10:37 AM	#1
Suzaku Drow Warrior Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Canada, AB Age: 40 Posts: 264	If you've cast Invisibility or Improved ", or equipped Staff of Magi, cast Non-detection, can spells like True Sight reveal you, like vs. other mages? I've never tried this, but can anyone save me some time? __________________ <br />Irresponsibility: No single raindrop will believe that it is to blame for the resulting flood. -Anonymous <br />IW PT Sig-Artist

01-08-2002, 10:47 AM	#3
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	Though for some reason it never worked with me, it has worked for others...... Indeed, when you wear the cloak of non-detection and are invisible , spells such a True sight do not reveal you, neither can creatures that have a natural ability to see invisible other creatures see you. Be carefull though, the cloak only functions when you act in a non-agressive manner. Once you cast a spell or try to attack, you're invisibility becomes dispellable again. Note too, that natural-invis.detect creatures might hear you, and will attack anywayz (not sure, but i thought i heard something like that) hope it helped [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

01-08-2002, 10:50 AM	#4
Melusine Dracolisk Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 6,541	quote: Originally posted by daan: Note too, that natural-invis.detect creatures might hear you, and will attack anywayz (not sure, but i thought i heard something like that) hope it helped [img]smile.gif[/img] You are correct: Spoiler concerning Nalia's Keep ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' The "Head Troll" Torgal can smell you even when invisible + non-detectable. __________________ [img]\"hosted/melusine.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Your voice is ambrosia

01-08-2002, 12:43 PM	#5
Sir Kenyth Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: somewhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,785	There is one spell that negates non-detect. I think its "Oracle". __________________ Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.

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01-08-2002, 10:44 AM	#2
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 46 Posts: 1,493	No, (Improved) Invisibility combined with Non-Detection renders you immune to all illusion/invisibility-dispelling spells. So you'll remain invisible until you either attack or cast a spell. That's why the Staff of the Magi and the Cloak of Non-Detection are such a powerful combo of items.

01-08-2002, 09:31 PM	#6
Tim Tam Dungeon Master Join Date: March 29, 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 60	Non-Detection protects against Detect Invisibility and Invisibility Purge but not against any other revealing spells, such as Oracle, True Sight or Detect Illusion. The Cloak of Non-Detection however casts a non-dispellable version of Non-Detection over the wearer that nothing can remove. Only the Cloak can maintain invisibility against the higher illusion dispelling spells, the spell itself is actually quite crappy.

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