What monsters are immune to critical strike?

TinyMage · 05-04-2005, 08:45 AM

I am planning to give my lord 1 level of ninja and train him in critical strike + stealth.

I read somewhere that critical strike is raised by hitting an opponent. I thought I might equip the weakest weapon possible on my lord and hit some enemy forever to raise CS up to 100 ( assuming the enemy has enough hitpoints ). That way I would only use one level as ninja.

So does anyone know a monster type that is immune to CS?

xfactor · 05-04-2005, 10:09 AM

I think the only immune monsters are the named ones - the boss characters that you start to fight about halfway through the game.

However, there appears to be some sort of level modifier with the CS skill. If you can find a high level monster (relative to your character's level) that poses little threat you could use that as practice.

I would warn you, though, that CS training could take a very long time. It seems to go up very slowly and my Ninjas have a hard time maxing it out by the end of the game wihtout any training.

xfactor

Scatter · 05-04-2005, 10:37 AM

Yah, you can get CS up to the 70's only reasonably fast, then the learning curve takes a big jump. The payoff isn't very good, either, as a character with 100 in CS only gets an actual 5% roll to crit anything. (you get 1% when the skill appears on your stats, and 1% more for every 25 points in the skill) As xfactor said, you also have to account for monster level, and their resistance.

SpitBall · 05-04-2005, 11:22 AM

Is "critical strike" the skill the produces "instakill"? I swear I get instakills from characters without critical strike.

Sinteuil · 05-04-2005, 11:33 AM

As far as I know, the only way to get an instakill without critical strike skill is if there's a "kill %" on the weapon you're using.

LewyRay · 05-04-2005, 12:35 PM

From my understanding, the chances of getting an instakill from CS skill is only 1% for every 25 skill points...so even at a score of 100, the odds are only 4%. There are many weapons that have a much higher chance.

Also, you would only be able to train CS while the character is a Ninja...once switching to Lord the CS skill cannot be raised (unless you switch back to either a Ninja or other profession that has CS.

Scatter · 05-04-2005, 07:20 PM

No, LW, you get one percent for having the skill at all, then 1% more for each 25 thereafter, like i posted. Max possible is 6% for a Ninja (or Ranger via Ranged Combat) maxed plus the 25% Skill bonus; 5% for others, even with the Assassins' Cap, which only confers 20%.
Weapon Kill % is also less resistable by mobs and has less level differential.
Rangers get instakills with bows, crossbows, and all Modern Weapons, but not with close combat unless the weapon has a % kill.

SpitBall · 05-05-2005, 09:14 AM

Whatever the stats and percentages - I got 4 in one round last night while fighting Rapax Berserkers. One from RFS-81 with his bare hands, one from the Samurai with a Zatotachi (or whatever) stick, one from the fighter with Fang, and the last from the Psionic with his sling (not even the wrist rocket) loaded with either a Medusa, or a Ta-Li stone. Such luck! And I was probably hexed, too!

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05-04-2005, 08:45 AM	#1
TinyMage Dungeon Master Join Date: August 18, 2004 Location: USA Age: 46 Posts: 83	I am planning to give my lord 1 level of ninja and train him in critical strike + stealth. I read somewhere that critical strike is raised by hitting an opponent. I thought I might equip the weakest weapon possible on my lord and hit some enemy forever to raise CS up to 100 ( assuming the enemy has enough hitpoints ). That way I would only use one level as ninja. So does anyone know a monster type that is immune to CS?

05-04-2005, 10:09 AM	#2
xfactor Dungeon Master Join Date: June 15, 2004 Location: UK Posts: 77	I think the only immune monsters are the named ones - the boss characters that you start to fight about halfway through the game. However, there appears to be some sort of level modifier with the CS skill. If you can find a high level monster (relative to your character's level) that poses little threat you could use that as practice. I would warn you, though, that CS training could take a very long time. It seems to go up very slowly and my Ninjas have a hard time maxing it out by the end of the game wihtout any training. xfactor

05-04-2005, 10:37 AM	#3
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 66 Posts: 1,336	Yah, you can get CS up to the 70's only reasonably fast, then the learning curve takes a big jump. The payoff isn't very good, either, as a character with 100 in CS only gets an actual 5% roll to crit anything. (you get 1% when the skill appears on your stats, and 1% more for every 25 points in the skill) As xfactor said, you also have to account for monster level, and their resistance.

05-04-2005, 11:22 AM	#4
SpitBall The Magister Join Date: March 17, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 110	Is "critical strike" the skill the produces "instakill"? I swear I get instakills from characters without critical strike.

05-04-2005, 11:33 AM	#5
Sinteuil The Magister Join Date: December 17, 2004 Location: Zembla Age: 56 Posts: 138	As far as I know, the only way to get an instakill without critical strike skill is if there's a "kill %" on the weapon you're using.

05-04-2005, 12:35 PM	#6
LewyRay Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 12, 2005 Location: Minnesota Age: 57 Posts: 33	From my understanding, the chances of getting an instakill from CS skill is only 1% for every 25 skill points...so even at a score of 100, the odds are only 4%. There are many weapons that have a much higher chance. Also, you would only be able to train CS while the character is a Ninja...once switching to Lord the CS skill cannot be raised (unless you switch back to either a Ninja or other profession that has CS.

05-04-2005, 07:20 PM	#7
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 66 Posts: 1,336	No, LW, you get one percent for having the skill at all, then 1% more for each 25 thereafter, like i posted. Max possible is 6% for a Ninja (or Ranger via Ranged Combat) maxed plus the 25% Skill bonus; 5% for others, even with the Assassins' Cap, which only confers 20%. Weapon Kill % is also less resistable by mobs and has less level differential. Rangers get instakills with bows, crossbows, and all Modern Weapons, but not with close combat unless the weapon has a % kill.

05-05-2005, 09:14 AM	#8
SpitBall The Magister Join Date: March 17, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 110	Whatever the stats and percentages - I got 4 in one round last night while fighting Rapax Berserkers. One from RFS-81 with his bare hands, one from the Samurai with a Zatotachi (or whatever) stick, one from the fighter with Fang, and the last from the Psionic with his sling (not even the wrist rocket) loaded with either a Medusa, or a Ta-Li stone. Such luck! And I was probably hexed, too!

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