Harsh penalty

Rothrorn · 03-20-2003, 09:04 AM

Whilst in the thieves maze I happen to stumble on Winksi Perforate (or whatever he's called). Since he's an evil mage and dying anyway Jaheira decided to put him out of his misery by perforating him a bit more (geddit?). I was hoping for some exp and useful loot - instead I lose 10 reputation points!! That seems way over the top to me - after all he is a baddie.

[ 03-20-2003, 10:31 AM: Message edited by: Rothrorn ]

Flaming Fist Enforcer · 03-20-2003, 10:12 AM

It's Winski Perorate IIRC. And I find it very agitating that you cannot kill him without suffering a rep loss. It seems that now, after Sarevok discarded him, he isn't evil anymore (must have been Sarevok's influence [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] ).

Rothrorn · 03-20-2003, 12:35 PM

What alignment is he anyway? Also why should your rep drop when there is no-one there to see you do it?

SixOfSpades · 03-20-2003, 03:36 PM

This is probably the stupidest Reputation problem is the whole damn game. I've never done a Detect Evil to determine his alignment, but Winski Peorate is a known accomplice of a known homicidal despot. And, if you do kill him, there's not a single witness present. What the hell gives?

On the bright side, by the time you enter the Thieves' Maze, Reputation is now utterly worthless to you (unless you're a Paladin, a Ranger, or need to keep Good & Neutral people in the party).

Flaming Fist Enforcer · 03-20-2003, 04:29 PM

He is considered to be an innocent. And you get no XP for killing him.

karlosovic · 03-21-2003, 07:29 AM

yeh I just came across that too (as I finished the game again yesterday). its a pretty gay penalty, and I reloaded for the principle of the matter, but i guess it wouldnt have mattered either way for me

InsaneBane · 03-21-2003, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
And, if you do kill him, there's not a single witness present. What the hell gives?

There are always the gods to witness your evil deeds

. As long as the priests are able to listen - they will know too.

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Insane

D*Ranged · 03-23-2003, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by InsaneBane:

Quote:
Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
And, if you do kill him, there's not a single witness present. What the hell gives?

There are always the gods to witness your evil deeds . As long as the priests are able to listen - they will know too.

[img]graemlins/greenbounce.gif[/img]
Insane[/QUOTE]Tsk. There are other stupid rep.loss problems in the entire Bg & BG2 series really... [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img]

Flaming Fist Enforcer · 03-23-2003, 05:31 PM

I totally agree. You won't believe what happened to me. I killed some innocent commoners on the street of Baldur's Gate and I lost my reputation. Now it's 1, and I'm a fallen paladin. Is this some kind of bug or what???

Ar-Cunin · 03-23-2003, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by D*Ranged:
Tsk. There are other stupid rep.loss problems in the entire Bg & BG2 series really... [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img]

Like the shadow druid in the Cloakwood

03-20-2003, 09:04 AM	#1
Rothrorn Dungeon Master Join Date: January 8, 2003 Location: uk Age: 56 Posts: 69	Whilst in the thieves maze I happen to stumble on Winksi Perforate (or whatever he's called). Since he's an evil mage and dying anyway Jaheira decided to put him out of his misery by perforating him a bit more (geddit?). I was hoping for some exp and useful loot - instead I lose 10 reputation points!! That seems way over the top to me - after all he is a baddie. [ 03-20-2003, 10:31 AM: Message edited by: Rothrorn ] __________________ Rothrorn the Wise

03-20-2003, 10:12 AM	#2
Flaming Fist Enforcer Drow Warrior Join Date: January 25, 2003 Location: Croatia Age: 38 Posts: 261	It's Winski Perorate IIRC. And I find it very agitating that you cannot kill him without suffering a rep loss. It seems that now, after Sarevok discarded him, he isn't evil anymore (must have been Sarevok's influence [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] ). __________________ [url]\"http://imageshack.us\" target=\"_blank\"> [img]\"http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9278/sig6fk.png\" alt=\" - \" /></a>

03-20-2003, 12:35 PM	#3
Rothrorn Dungeon Master Join Date: January 8, 2003 Location: uk Age: 56 Posts: 69	What alignment is he anyway? Also why should your rep drop when there is no-one there to see you do it? __________________ Rothrorn the Wise

03-20-2003, 03:36 PM	#4
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	This is probably the stupidest Reputation problem is the whole damn game. I've never done a Detect Evil to determine his alignment, but Winski Peorate is a known accomplice of a known homicidal despot. And, if you do kill him, there's not a single witness present. What the hell gives? On the bright side, by the time you enter the Thieves' Maze, Reputation is now utterly worthless to you (unless you're a Paladin, a Ranger, or need to keep Good & Neutral people in the party). __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

03-20-2003, 04:29 PM	#5
Flaming Fist Enforcer Drow Warrior Join Date: January 25, 2003 Location: Croatia Age: 38 Posts: 261	He is considered to be an innocent. And you get no XP for killing him. __________________ [url]\"http://imageshack.us\" target=\"_blank\"> [img]\"http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9278/sig6fk.png\" alt=\" - \" /></a>

03-21-2003, 07:29 AM	#6
karlosovic Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: December 1, 2002 Location: Newcastle, Australia Age: 47 Posts: 636	yeh I just came across that too (as I finished the game again yesterday). its a pretty gay penalty, and I reloaded for the principle of the matter, but i guess it wouldnt have mattered either way for me __________________ Sunglasses of Coolness +2<br /><br />Cernd: \"It is with great pride and pleasure that I accept this Most Valuable Player award....\"<br />(from the genius of Six of Spades)

03-23-2003, 05:31 PM	#9
Flaming Fist Enforcer Drow Warrior Join Date: January 25, 2003 Location: Croatia Age: 38 Posts: 261	I totally agree. You won't believe what happened to me. I killed some innocent commoners on the street of Baldur's Gate and I lost my reputation. Now it's 1, and I'm a fallen paladin. Is this some kind of bug or what??? __________________ [url]\"http://imageshack.us\" target=\"_blank\"> [img]\"http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9278/sig6fk.png\" alt=\" - \" /></a>

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