Mages a wee bit too powerful? - Page 3

Lucifer Lord of demons · 12-08-2001, 04:53 AM

Sorry guys but ctrl-Y doesn't kill him! You can use it a million times if you want it won't kill him! Of course he'll be at 1 hit point so you can just punch him and he'll die(hehehe)

Tom · 12-09-2001, 08:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Demogorgan is immuned to Time-Stop, so I am just taking Euronymous's comments with a pinch of salt.

I would be impressed with anybody though, if they can solo Improved Demogorgan with a solo Mage/Sorcerer.

It seems simple really, if you have six slots open in lvl 8 spells and two slots open in lvl 9 spells.

Im not sure if hes magic resitant so just in case, spell trigger him with three lower resistances, then let out a chain contintgency of 3 abi dalzims, twice.

I soloed a wild mage. It was quite amuzing. I actually summoned birds instead of mordenkainen one time.

And yes, mages are like every class put together. Fighter? Tensers transformation. Cleric? Summon Planetar. Thief? Knock.

Its quite pointless to have a fighter, cleric, thief in your party when you could have a mage.

Dundee Slaytern · 12-09-2001, 11:43 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Tom:
It seems simple really, if you have six slots open in lvl 8 spells and two slots open in lvl 9 spells.
Im not sure if hes magic resitant so just in case, spell trigger him with three lower resistances, then let out a chain contintgency of 3 abi dalzims, twice.

Actually, I have kicked his butt already. He was immuned to Lower Resistance, but he was affected by my Pierce Shields and he went down baby, he went down.

Halaster · 12-10-2001, 01:45 PM

I think only Demogorgon, Balthezar(when he uses his "Faster than the Eye" discipline) and perhaps Melissan in the final battle are immune to timestop, other than that...
Yep, mages rock the world.

Axl of Darkness · 01-25-2002, 09:57 AM

I have beaten the regular demongorgon twice. He is not a formidable foe. The preceding battles were much harder. My high level party (average 24-30) killed in in a breeze. Most of my characters were uninjuried. Have you tried the boots of the GARGOYLE....It casts stoneskin twice a day. Put it on a 2 weapon wielder dwarf, add, whirlwind, improved hast, resit damage and...poor demongorgon is history...

Barlik Longbeard · 01-25-2002, 10:07 AM

Personally I think that the Cleric is the best class because it can cast VERY powerful magic, though not time stop admittedly. But it can cast finger of death, Gate, Summon (fallen) Deva, the best elementals you can get, you can turn into a kick rs elemental, and other kick rs stuff. Mage and Cleric are VERY close: neck-to-neck.

deathknight · 01-25-2002, 07:48 PM

Hrm clerics do get some powerful spells but I don't think they are even in the same ballpark as a mage. There are too many "broken" spells in my opinion. Little loopholes like using projected image to summon infinite elementals etc, reuse the same scrolls etc. Time stop is just nutty and just amplifies how powerful the other mage spells are. The crazy thing about mages is that they can adapt to different situations so well. With the right spells they can walk right into alot of battles and melee with the meatshields.

12-08-2001, 04:53 AM	#21
Lucifer Lord of demons Manshoon Join Date: November 7, 2001 Location: hell Posts: 223	Sorry guys but ctrl-Y doesn't kill him! You can use it a million times if you want it won't kill him! Of course he'll be at 1 hit point so you can just punch him and he'll die(hehehe) __________________ When someone insults you, do not kill them there and then. It is a bad thing to do. Instead plot revenge, destroy his life, ruin him and in the end leave him to think about his fate. He\'ll understand the errors of his actions. <br /><br />\"Thaaat dooesn\'t huuuuurt!!!\"<br />(Victim of a dark elf assasin before losing his head)

12-09-2001, 08:18 AM	#22
Tom Elminster Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: MA USA - Cape Cod Age: 36 Posts: 449	quote: Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Demogorgan is immuned to Time-Stop, so I am just taking Euronymous's comments with a pinch of salt. I would be impressed with anybody though, if they can solo Improved Demogorgan with a solo Mage/Sorcerer. It seems simple really, if you have six slots open in lvl 8 spells and two slots open in lvl 9 spells. Im not sure if hes magic resitant so just in case, spell trigger him with three lower resistances, then let out a chain contintgency of 3 abi dalzims, twice. I soloed a wild mage. It was quite amuzing. I actually summoned birds instead of mordenkainen one time. And yes, mages are like every class put together. Fighter? Tensers transformation. Cleric? Summon Planetar. Thief? Knock. Its quite pointless to have a fighter, cleric, thief in your party when you could have a mage.

12-09-2001, 11:43 AM	#23
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by Tom: It seems simple really, if you have six slots open in lvl 8 spells and two slots open in lvl 9 spells. Im not sure if hes magic resitant so just in case, spell trigger him with three lower resistances, then let out a chain contintgency of 3 abi dalzims, twice. Actually, I have kicked his butt already. He was immuned to Lower Resistance, but he was affected by my Pierce Shields and he went down baby, he went down.

01-25-2002, 09:57 AM	#25
Axl of Darkness Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 8, 2002 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Posts: 45	I have beaten the regular demongorgon twice. He is not a formidable foe. The preceding battles were much harder. My high level party (average 24-30) killed in in a breeze. Most of my characters were uninjuried. Have you tried the boots of the GARGOYLE....It casts stoneskin twice a day. Put it on a 2 weapon wielder dwarf, add, whirlwind, improved hast, resit damage and...poor demongorgon is history... __________________ Wealth is not compared to power.

01-25-2002, 10:07 AM	#26
Barlik Longbeard Manshoon Join Date: January 17, 2002 Location: England Age: 40 Posts: 182	Personally I think that the Cleric is the best class because it can cast VERY powerful magic, though not time stop admittedly. But it can cast finger of death, Gate, Summon (fallen) Deva, the best elementals you can get, you can turn into a kick rs elemental, and other kick rs stuff. Mage and Cleric are VERY close: neck-to-neck. __________________ \"Revere the ancestors, obey your king, bear yours arms with pride, fear no foe, hate the Greenskin, mistrust the Elf, and you can do no wrong.\" - An Old Dwarf Saying

12-10-2001, 01:45 PM	#24
Halaster Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 31, 2001 Location: Waterdeep, The Undermountain Posts: 23	I think only Demogorgon, Balthezar(when he uses his "Faster than the Eye" discipline) and perhaps Melissan in the final battle are immune to timestop, other than that... Yep, mages rock the world.

01-25-2002, 07:48 PM	#27
deathknight Drow Warrior Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Niles,Il USA Posts: 298	Hrm clerics do get some powerful spells but I don't think they are even in the same ballpark as a mage. There are too many "broken" spells in my opinion. Little loopholes like using projected image to summon infinite elementals etc, reuse the same scrolls etc. Time stop is just nutty and just amplifies how powerful the other mage spells are. The crazy thing about mages is that they can adapt to different situations so well. With the right spells they can walk right into alot of battles and melee with the meatshields.

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