Who didn't see this coming?

Felix The Assassin · 10-17-2010, 08:41 AM

Wonder who BHO is going to blame for this BHO failure?

Key U.S. allies in Iraq said to be rejoining rebels

BAQUBA, Iraq — Members of United States-allied Awakening Councils have quit or been dismissed from their positions in significant numbers in recent months, prey to an intensive recruitment campaign by the Sunni insurgency, according to government officials, current and former members of the Awakening and insurgents.

Although there are no firm figures, security and political officials say hundreds of the well-disciplined fighters — many of whom have gained extensive knowledge about the American military — appear to have rejoined Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. Beyond that, officials say that even many of the Awakening fighters still on the Iraqi government payroll, possibly thousands of them, covertly aid the insurgency.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39704635...new_york_times

ElfBane · 10-17-2010, 08:57 AM

What we 'should' have done is break the country up. Create a Kurdistan and split up the Sunni and Shia Arabs. But that would have created states that Iran could easily cherry-pick, I think. I think the reason we didn't break up Iraq was the hope that it would be a bulwark against Iran. I'm afraid there are no easy solutions, what do you think should be done, Felix?

Felix The Assassin · 10-17-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ElfBane

What we 'should' have done is break the country up. Create a Kurdistan and split up the Sunni and Shia Arabs. But that would have created states that Iran could easily cherry-pick, I think. I think the reason we didn't break up Iraq was the hope that it would be a bulwark against Iran. I'm afraid there are no easy solutions, what do you think should be done, Felix?

The dam has been craked and the bridge was in fact not prepared.

What do I think should be done? I have two bids in on two overseas positions, and no return to base OPORD!

ElfBane · 10-18-2010, 06:50 AM

What does the acronym mean?

BTW, to answer the question, I didn't see it coming but it doesn't surprise me. Since we have pulled out the main combat force we are sure to see a backlash against the Iraqis who aided our cause. They will almost certainly be seen as "collaborators".

Timber Loftis · 10-18-2010, 12:18 PM

Yes, when our forces leave a government they have proppped up, some people always defect back to the other side. Same story repeated again. It's even being repeated in one of the places it occurred before.

But we cannot camp our troops in a foreign country forever. The lesson to be learned here is don't start illegal wars to begin with, don't go f'n with other country's shit when it doesn't concern us, and leave people the hell alone.

SpiritWarrior · 10-18-2010, 01:45 PM

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Wonder who BHO is going to blame for this BHO failure

GWB of course, the instigator of this mess.

Felix The Assassin · 10-18-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior

GWB of course, the instigator of this mess.

And BINGO, you once again have won the dumbass of the month award. Good Job!

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Originally Posted by ElfBane

What does the acronym mean?

OPORD? Operational Order

SpiritWarrior · 10-18-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin

And BINGO, you once again have won the dumbass of the month award. Good Job!

If that truly is the case why are you wearing my dumbass badge? I won this thing fair and square!

P.S. I'd like to thank G-doubleya....

10-17-2010, 08:41 AM	#1
Felix The Assassin The Dreadnoks Join Date: September 27, 2001 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 62 Posts: 3,608	Who didn't see this coming? Wonder who BHO is going to blame for this BHO failure? Key U.S. allies in Iraq said to be rejoining rebels BAQUBA, Iraq — Members of United States-allied Awakening Councils have quit or been dismissed from their positions in significant numbers in recent months, prey to an intensive recruitment campaign by the Sunni insurgency, according to government officials, current and former members of the Awakening and insurgents. Although there are no firm figures, security and political officials say hundreds of the well-disciplined fighters — many of whom have gained extensive knowledge about the American military — appear to have rejoined Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. Beyond that, officials say that even many of the Awakening fighters still on the Iraqi government payroll, possibly thousands of them, covertly aid the insurgency. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39704635...new_york_times __________________ The Lizzie Palmer Tribute Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. John F. Kennedy 35th President of The United States The Last Shot Honor The Fallen Jesus died for our sins, and American Soldiers died for our freedom. If you don't stand behind our Soldiers, please feel free to stand in front of them.

10-17-2010, 08:57 AM	#2
ElfBane Mephistopheles Join Date: March 21, 2004 Location: Cape Canaveral, FL Age: 70 Posts: 1,450	Re: Who didn't see this coming? What we 'should' have done is break the country up. Create a Kurdistan and split up the Sunni and Shia Arabs. But that would have created states that Iran could easily cherry-pick, I think. I think the reason we didn't break up Iraq was the hope that it would be a bulwark against Iran. I'm afraid there are no easy solutions, what do you think should be done, Felix? __________________ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790), Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. Iraq and Afghan fatalities: 6,855 and counting. Silence IS consent.

10-18-2010, 06:50 AM	#4
ElfBane Mephistopheles Join Date: March 21, 2004 Location: Cape Canaveral, FL Age: 70 Posts: 1,450	Re: Who didn't see this coming? What does the acronym mean? BTW, to answer the question, I didn't see it coming but it doesn't surprise me. Since we have pulled out the main combat force we are sure to see a backlash against the Iraqis who aided our cause. They will almost certainly be seen as "collaborators". __________________ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790), Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. Iraq and Afghan fatalities: 6,855 and counting. Silence IS consent. Last edited by ElfBane; 10-18-2010 at 09:06 AM. Reason: added content

10-18-2010, 12:18 PM	#5
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	Re: Who didn't see this coming? Yes, when our forces leave a government they have proppped up, some people always defect back to the other side. Same story repeated again. It's even being repeated in one of the places it occurred before. But we cannot camp our troops in a foreign country forever. The lesson to be learned here is don't start illegal wars to begin with, don't go f'n with other country's shit when it doesn't concern us, and leave people the hell alone. __________________

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