Thrown-weapons --> APR --> * ToB HLA-spoilers*

daan · 03-22-2003, 08:03 AM

My kensai is thouroughly enjoying Firetooth ..
but something is striking me as odd,.. I had it happen with throwing spears too

In ToB, I once maxed someone out in spears/two-handed weapon style and equiped him with a throwing spear. But once I Improved Hasted him his attacks werent doubled. Same thing with GWW ..

Now my kensai has GWW while throwing Firetooth, his APR goes to 6 ... but no further.

Why ? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Dar'tanian · 03-22-2003, 12:56 PM

Possible because of the boots of speed do you have them on??

Link · 03-22-2003, 01:01 PM

Well, Boots of Speed do not keep the attacks per round steady IIRC. Do you have the Ring of Free Action equiped? Remember that it makes you immune to both beneficial and non-beneficial movement alterering spells (i.e. both Slow and Haste).

And this may be a wild guess here, but maybe the Kensai's amount of attacks per round is limited to 6. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

daan · 03-22-2003, 02:08 PM

Nah, 'cause the same thing happened when I equipped a spear on a different character, who was a plain fighter. Both didnt wear the boots of speed or the ring of free action AFAIK. [img]graemlins/crying.gif[/img]

Thx for the replies though [img]smile.gif[/img]

BlackJack21 · 03-22-2003, 03:26 PM

Now that you mention it, I believe that I am having the same problem with my kensai who is maxed out in throwing spears. GWW doesn't seem like I actually am throwing it 10 times in a round.

daan · 03-22-2003, 04:18 PM

Alson, you participated in a thread discussing weimer's throwing spear IIRC ..
you know the answer ?

Link · 03-22-2003, 05:10 PM

Another wild guess: maybe it has something to do with spears/two handed weapons not counting as spears when you're using them as throwing weapons.. Very wild guess, though [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

SixOfSpades · 03-22-2003, 07:56 PM

(ponders what happens when you set Firetooth or the spear to its melee ability instead of ranged)

GWW does not actually set APR to 10. What it does is first set the APR to 5 (it can go no higher, even with "adds 1 attack per round" items), and then Improved Haste the person for 1 round, doubling their APR.

daan · 03-23-2003, 04:23 AM

Yeah, I know . .still doesnt explain anything though

And as for your question:
Yes, if you set it to melee it goes to 10 IIRC

Alson · 03-23-2003, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by daan:
Alson, you participated in a thread discussing weimer's throwing spear IIRC ..
you know the answer ?

Beats me...

Sorry.

Anyone else noticed that? It might be a local-install issue...

03-22-2003, 08:03 AM	#1
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	My kensai is thouroughly enjoying Firetooth .. but something is striking me as odd,.. I had it happen with throwing spears too In ToB, I once maxed someone out in spears/two-handed weapon style and equiped him with a throwing spear. But once I Improved Hasted him his attacks werent doubled. Same thing with GWW .. Now my kensai has GWW while throwing Firetooth, his APR goes to 6 ... but no further. Why ? [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

03-22-2003, 12:56 PM	#2
Dar'tanian Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: October 26, 2002 Location: USA Age: 35 Posts: 858	Possible because of the boots of speed do you have them on?? __________________ I\'m back boys...

03-22-2003, 01:01 PM	#3
Link Jack Burton Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: The Netherlands Age: 40 Posts: 5,888	Well, Boots of Speed do not keep the attacks per round steady IIRC. Do you have the Ring of Free Action equiped? Remember that it makes you immune to both beneficial and non-beneficial movement alterering spells (i.e. both Slow and Haste). And this may be a wild guess here, but maybe the Kensai's amount of attacks per round is limited to 6. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] __________________ Rowing is not a sport, it's a way of life Goal: Beijing 2008

03-22-2003, 02:08 PM	#4
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	Nah, 'cause the same thing happened when I equipped a spear on a different character, who was a plain fighter. Both didnt wear the boots of speed or the ring of free action AFAIK. [img]graemlins/crying.gif[/img] Thx for the replies though [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

03-22-2003, 04:18 PM	#6
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	Alson, you participated in a thread discussing weimer's throwing spear IIRC .. you know the answer ? __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

03-22-2003, 03:26 PM	#5
BlackJack21 The Magister Join Date: January 24, 2002 Location: USA Posts: 140	Now that you mention it, I believe that I am having the same problem with my kensai who is maxed out in throwing spears. GWW doesn't seem like I actually am throwing it 10 times in a round.

03-22-2003, 05:10 PM	#7
Link Jack Burton Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: The Netherlands Age: 40 Posts: 5,888	Another wild guess: maybe it has something to do with spears/two handed weapons not counting as spears when you're using them as throwing weapons.. Very wild guess, though [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] __________________ Rowing is not a sport, it's a way of life Goal: Beijing 2008

03-22-2003, 07:56 PM	#8
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	(ponders what happens when you set Firetooth or the spear to its melee ability instead of ranged) GWW does not actually set APR to 10. What it does is first set the APR to 5 (it can go no higher, even with "adds 1 attack per round" items), and then Improved Haste the person for 1 round, doubling their APR. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

03-23-2003, 04:23 AM	#9
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	Yeah, I know . .still doesnt explain anything though And as for your question: Yes, if you set it to melee it goes to 10 IIRC __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

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