Should I fight?!

Yorick · 10-26-2006, 02:27 PM

I got a ticket at this intersection for disobeying a sign forbidding left turns during the day.

Ironically, I actually checked for signs forbidding the turn.

Can you find the sign?
http://hughwilson.blogspot.com/

What do you think. Should I fight it? Can I fight city hall?

[ 10-26-2006, 02:29 PM: Message edited by: Yorick ]

Captain Obvious · 10-26-2006, 03:12 PM

AS a matter of principle you should always fight driving tickets. Although in this case, you might even have a chance of winning - i definately couldnt see any sign!

Bungleau · 10-26-2006, 04:03 PM

My guess would be that the sign is on the pole to your right, and not in either of the pictures.

*edit* You can see the back of what looks like it might be such a sign on the other side of the street, on the pole on the left.

If you want to have a chance of winning, take pictures of the entire intersection that show where the sign is, if it's there. If it's not, be sure to show where it was supposed to be.

[ 10-26-2006, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Bungleau ]

Raistlin Majere · 10-26-2006, 04:07 PM

There is no sign, nor is there any spoon.

[img]tongue.gif[/img]

Yorick · 10-26-2006, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bungleau:
My guess would be that the sign is on the pole to your right, and not in either of the pictures.

*edit* You can see the back of what looks like it might be such a sign on the other side of the street, on the pole on the left.

If you want to have a chance of winning, take pictures of the entire intersection that show where the sign is, if it's there. If it's not, be sure to show where it was supposed to be.

There actually was a sign, above the closest red light, and thus, practically above the car, and not visible at all.

I watched the intersection for a while after, for there was a copper waiting in ambush. A number of other people all fell into the trap.

SpiritWarrior · 10-26-2006, 04:28 PM

Oh yes fight it. I fought one a few years back and won. The sign was obscured by a tree and when the cop pointed to it I still couldn't see it until I got out and pulled half the tree away. I took pictures on my phone with the cop right there and as I did he looked like he looked like he was reconsidering but he didn't. He settled instead for just making a fast exit so I went down to city hall, filled out the form told the girl I was pissed and that the city needs to start maintainting their signs more. Eventually I won the whole thing.

Timber Loftis · 10-26-2006, 04:37 PM

Take pictures. Fight it. You may be surprised.

But don't do something silly like take a vacation day to fight it -- not worth it.

Nice Columbus Day pics, too.

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood · 10-26-2006, 04:54 PM

If the cop doesn't show up, you win automatically.

Havock · 10-26-2006, 11:18 PM

That is your punishment for driveing in NYC. Why not try the lovely and ultra safe subway system or maybe an even more lovely taxi.

Memnoch · 10-26-2006, 11:29 PM

I'd fight it if I were you. I fought a ticket for driving through on a "left turn only" lane on a small road because the paint on the road was illegible and nobody could see the arrow sign on the asphalt.

10-26-2006, 03:12 PM	#2
Captain Obvious Elminster Join Date: May 21, 2006 Location: New Zealand Age: 42 Posts: 420	AS a matter of principle you should always fight driving tickets. Although in this case, you might even have a chance of winning - i definately couldnt see any sign! __________________ I am the Walrus!

10-26-2006, 04:03 PM	#3
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	My guess would be that the sign is on the pole to your right, and not in either of the pictures. edit You can see the back of what looks like it might be such a sign on the other side of the street, on the pole on the left. If you want to have a chance of winning, take pictures of the entire intersection that show where the sign is, if it's there. If it's not, be sure to show where it was supposed to be. [ 10-26-2006, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Bungleau ] __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

10-26-2006, 04:07 PM	#4
Raistlin Majere Ra Join Date: March 26, 2002 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 2,323	There is no sign, nor is there any spoon. [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst forth at once in the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One. "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

10-26-2006, 04:28 PM	#6
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Oh yes fight it. I fought one a few years back and won. The sign was obscured by a tree and when the cop pointed to it I still couldn't see it until I got out and pulled half the tree away. I took pictures on my phone with the cop right there and as I did he looked like he looked like he was reconsidering but he didn't. He settled instead for just making a fast exit so I went down to city hall, filled out the form told the girl I was pissed and that the city needs to start maintainting their signs more. Eventually I won the whole thing. __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

10-26-2006, 04:37 PM	#7
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	Take pictures. Fight it. You may be surprised. But don't do something silly like take a vacation day to fight it -- not worth it. Nice Columbus Day pics, too. __________________

10-26-2006, 02:27 PM	#1
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 53 Posts: 9,246	I got a ticket at this intersection for disobeying a sign forbidding left turns during the day. Ironically, I actually checked for signs forbidding the turn. Can you find the sign? http://hughwilson.blogspot.com/ What do you think. Should I fight it? Can I fight city hall? [ 10-26-2006, 02:29 PM: Message edited by: Yorick ]

10-26-2006, 04:54 PM	#8
Variol (Farseer) Elmwood Jack Burton Join Date: May 16, 2003 Location: Dartmouth, NS Canada Age: 60 Posts: 5,634	If the cop doesn't show up, you win automatically. __________________ A MAN WHO WANTS FOR NOTHING HAS INFINITE WEALTH. (me)

10-26-2006, 11:18 PM	#9
Havock Dungeon Master Join Date: September 3, 2006 Location: Crematoria Age: 50 Posts: 99	That is your punishment for driveing in NYC. Why not try the lovely and ultra safe subway system or maybe an even more lovely taxi. __________________ ......So I sing this song out loud cause it takes away the sting...I got cigarettes and whiskey and they fix everything....go here to hear the rest. http://www.myspace.com/measuredingrey

10-26-2006, 11:29 PM	#10
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	I'd fight it if I were you. I fought a ticket for driving through on a "left turn only" lane on a small road because the paint on the road was illegible and nobody could see the arrow sign on the asphalt. __________________

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