Circular logic

Dirty Meg · 12-17-2004, 12:28 PM

Two very useful definitions from Dictionary.com

existence:
To have actual being; be real.

Real:
Being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verifiable existence.

Blunderbuss · 12-17-2004, 12:42 PM

Erm...yes, very interesting, my life, or at least my day, has been enlightened.

Vaskez · 12-17-2004, 01:14 PM

Well-spotted, Meg! I mean they never use synonyms of a word to describe it in dictionaries. And it is quite surprising when one finds that synonyms work both ways

Dirty Meg · 12-17-2004, 01:58 PM

The point I was trying to make is that those definitions are useless in actually explaining the concept of existence/reality.

Blunderbuss · 12-17-2004, 02:04 PM

Okay, fair enough. Also, inflammable and flammable are also used to describe one another in the "Collins English Dictionary".

Iron Greasel · 12-17-2004, 02:13 PM

Yes, as in "I am right because I am much smarter than you, and I must be smarter than you because I am right".

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 12-17-2004, 02:36 PM

If it was easy to define reality, philosophers would be out of a job.... Assuming, of course, we consider being a crazy street person or college professor a job.

SilentThief · 12-17-2004, 03:22 PM

From the "hitchhikers guide to the galaxy":
guidance: see advice
advice: see guidance

SilentThief

Beaumanoir · 12-17-2004, 03:23 PM

Anybody who discusses what's real and what isn't really needs to get a life. A REAL life.

Finicky B******ds.

Azred · 12-17-2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blunderbuss:
Okay, fair enough. Also, inflammable and flammable are also used to describe one another in the "Collins English Dictionary".

Technically, something is "flammable" if it will burn in the presence of oxygen. Something that is "inflammable" will burn when not in the presence of oxygen. Things that are "non-inflammable" will not burn at all. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

12-17-2004, 12:28 PM	#1
Dirty Meg Baaz Draconian Join Date: May 21, 2004 Location: Here, or there abouts. Age: 80 Posts: 703	Two very useful definitions from Dictionary.com existence: To have actual being; be real. Real: Being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verifiable existence. __________________ A stitch in time is worth two in the bush.

12-17-2004, 01:14 PM	#3
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	Well-spotted, Meg! I mean they never use synonyms of a word to describe it in dictionaries. And it is quite surprising when one finds that synonyms work both ways __________________ Too set in his ways to ever relate If he could set that aside, there'd be heaven to pay But weathered and aged, time swept him to grave Love conquers all? Damn, I'd say that area's gray

12-17-2004, 01:58 PM	#4
Dirty Meg Baaz Draconian Join Date: May 21, 2004 Location: Here, or there abouts. Age: 80 Posts: 703	The point I was trying to make is that those definitions are useless in actually explaining the concept of existence/reality. __________________ A stitch in time is worth two in the bush.

12-17-2004, 02:13 PM	#6
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 36 Posts: 1,701	Yes, as in "I am right because I am much smarter than you, and I must be smarter than you because I am right". __________________

12-17-2004, 02:36 PM	#7
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	If it was easy to define reality, philosophers would be out of a job.... Assuming, of course, we consider being a crazy street person or college professor a job. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

12-17-2004, 12:42 PM	#2
Blunderbuss Zhentarim Guard Join Date: October 11, 2004 Location: England Posts: 328	Erm...yes, very interesting, my life, or at least my day, has been enlightened.

12-17-2004, 02:04 PM	#5
Blunderbuss Zhentarim Guard Join Date: October 11, 2004 Location: England Posts: 328	Okay, fair enough. Also, inflammable and flammable are also used to describe one another in the "Collins English Dictionary".

12-17-2004, 03:22 PM	#8
SilentThief Symbol of Cyric Join Date: September 10, 2001 Location: USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,301	From the "hitchhikers guide to the galaxy": guidance: see advice advice: see guidance SilentThief __________________ http://www.wilhelmscream.net/

12-17-2004, 03:23 PM	#9
Beaumanoir Iron Throne Cult Join Date: June 3, 2001 Location: There is no IRL, Only AFK. Age: 36 Posts: 4,896	Anybody who discusses what's real and what isn't really needs to get a life. A REAL life. Finicky B******ds. __________________ My pokemon bring all the boys to the yard, and they're like; you wanna trade cards? Damn right, I wanna trade cards, I'll trade this but not my Charizard.

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