The Weakest Link.

Dundee Slaytern · 07-21-2002, 10:41 AM

Want to create another all-female party... but there is a problem. Too many female NPCs.

My previous all-female party was as follows,

Carlo Sanciona, Cavalier,
Imoen,
Nalia,
Aerie,
Mazzy,
Jaheira.

That was without ToB, but I never got around to pitting an all-female party through ToB. So I thought I would take a break from currently soloing my Archer and Assassin and get back into partying for a while at least.

Due to the introduction of ToB...

Spoiler alert
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... Viconia can be redeemed and turned good. So now I have six female NPCs to choose from. I have narrowed down the list to three of them. Imoen, Aerie and Mazzy will stay.

Imoen stays because she is half-sister of the PC. Aerie stays because she is my second-favourite NPC in the game. Mazzy stays because she is the most mature and noble NPC female in the game in my opinion.

Soooo... ...

Who should I leave out of the adventure?

Jaheira grates on my nerves and I have a tendency to kill her in her cage whenever I start a game. I only tolerated her in the previous all-female party because the PC was female.

Nalia has got to be the whiniest brat I have ever met in this game. At least Aerie got good reasons to feel insecure, Nalia is just too pampered/sheltered... and badly misguided, if unintentional.

Viconia is evil, rude and kills at the slightest provocation. Just like any other female... kidding.

Note... their classes does not matter at all to me. I am going more for personality. Who do you think deserves to be left out?

Dragonbreath · 07-21-2002, 11:19 AM

I say leave out Nalia...

Zarr · 07-21-2002, 11:45 AM

Yeah I would agree with that. You already have Imoen and Aerie so why bother having Nalia who sucks as a thief and Imoen gets one extra spell for a level so is a better mage.

Sir Exxon · 07-21-2002, 12:15 PM

Leave out Jaheira. Bad personality, only talks about herself and how sad it is without Khalid. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 07-21-2002, 12:24 PM

As I'm sure you know, Nalia isn't *quite* so whiny and bratty in ToB. I think that it's only right to keep Viconia if you really want to leave the world a better place; redeeming her and whatnot would certainly make the PC remembered. Jahiera I like only because I think she's funny, though I can see why she would get on your nerves. SO... I'm going to have to say leave Nalia, only because of what Dragonbreath and Zarr said, that you already have a dualclassed thief/mage.. It wouldn't be fair to Viconia or Jahiera to dump them, who you've known since BG1, for Nalia.
If you're looking for less bickering in the party, leave Viconia.. I don't understand why Jahiera and Viconia fight, because it seems to me Viconia at least grudgingly respects Jahiera. AND... "Truth be told, I would not mind traveling with Viconia." But Aerie hates Viconia just because she's drow, thus provoking Viconia to be cruel to her. Mazzy doesn't like Viconia, either. Jahiera is a bit condecending... condescending... Al Gore-ish towards Aerie, as Aerie's naivete clashes with Jahiera's worldliness, especially given Jahiera's recent loss of Khalid.
A big factor in this decision has got to be voice. I like Jahiera's and Viconia's voices, and could stand to listen to them the entire game. Nalia's voice isn't as appealing to me.
If I was the PC and I had to choose, I would pick Jahiera and Viconia, simply because they've been around and I would value their input.. even though these two in particular can be just a liiiitle bit biased in their opinions.
Viconia's rudeness can be refreshing. Since my party is almost always polite and such, to see Viconia make comments that even I would make at times is nice. Ultimately, though, it all boils down to who you like best. Let us know who you decide on, ok?

Dundee Slaytern · 07-21-2002, 12:49 PM

Who I like the best? It should be phrased as who irks me the least.

Although that only applies to Jaheira and Nalia. The only reason why Viconia is debatable is because of her initial alignment, the reason why she was not even a contender in the first team. Now that she is redeemable, I am giving her a chance, but I want some opinions on this matter first.

Alson · 07-21-2002, 12:52 PM

I say, try the new nalia romance.
It could be refreshing...

Dundee Slaytern · 07-21-2002, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alson:
I say, try the new nalia romance.
It could be refreshing...

Eh? While some might find it appealing, the very idea makes my skin crawl.

Aerie and Viconia any day.

Alson · 07-21-2002, 01:22 PM

[img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] ...
Refreshing... Not enjoying...

Now, on a more serious note..
If you want a good female NPC which you can romance, download Tashia.
She is really the best female romance...

Dundee Slaytern · 07-21-2002, 01:35 PM

I have the Sola mod and Ascension already. Besides, if I am not mistaken, the Tashia mod is still under testing and not cleared yet.

07-21-2002, 10:41 AM	#1
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Want to create another all-female party... but there is a problem. Too many female NPCs. My previous all-female party was as follows, Carlo Sanciona, Cavalier, Imoen, Nalia, Aerie, Mazzy, Jaheira. That was without ToB, but I never got around to pitting an all-female party through ToB. So I thought I would take a break from currently soloing my Archer and Assassin and get back into partying for a while at least. Due to the introduction of ToB... Spoiler alert ~ ~ ~ ~ ... Viconia can be redeemed and turned good. So now I have six female NPCs to choose from. I have narrowed down the list to three of them. Imoen, Aerie and Mazzy will stay. Imoen stays because she is half-sister of the PC. Aerie stays because she is my second-favourite NPC in the game. Mazzy stays because she is the most mature and noble NPC female in the game in my opinion. Soooo... ... Who should I leave out of the adventure? Jaheira grates on my nerves and I have a tendency to kill her in her cage whenever I start a game. I only tolerated her in the previous all-female party because the PC was female. Nalia has got to be the whiniest brat I have ever met in this game. At least Aerie got good reasons to feel insecure, Nalia is just too pampered/sheltered... and badly misguided, if unintentional. Viconia is evil, rude and kills at the slightest provocation. Just like any other female... kidding. Note... their classes does not matter at all to me. I am going more for personality. Who do you think deserves to be left out? __________________ Click On The Image For BG2 Information Land of the Psycho-moe

07-21-2002, 11:19 AM	#2
Dragonbreath Manshoon Join Date: May 20, 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 36 Posts: 174	I say leave out Nalia... __________________ Minsc - Oh! Minsc has never been crazy, no sir.<br /><br />Rampah - Rampah dance! Dance, Rampah, dance! Dance in the flesh, Huuuuluckaluckakucka LAYYY!

07-21-2002, 11:45 AM	#3
Zarr Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 19, 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 41 Posts: 1,330	Yeah I would agree with that. You already have Imoen and Aerie so why bother having Nalia who sucks as a thief and Imoen gets one extra spell for a level so is a better mage. __________________ Minsc - \"Don\'t ask questions better left to aged sages\"<br /><br />\"You must gather your party before venturing forth\". BANG shoots him dead

07-21-2002, 12:24 PM	#5
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	As I'm sure you know, Nalia isn't quite so whiny and bratty in ToB. I think that it's only right to keep Viconia if you really want to leave the world a better place; redeeming her and whatnot would certainly make the PC remembered. Jahiera I like only because I think she's funny, though I can see why she would get on your nerves. SO... I'm going to have to say leave Nalia, only because of what Dragonbreath and Zarr said, that you already have a dualclassed thief/mage.. It wouldn't be fair to Viconia or Jahiera to dump them, who you've known since BG1, for Nalia. If you're looking for less bickering in the party, leave Viconia.. I don't understand why Jahiera and Viconia fight, because it seems to me Viconia at least grudgingly respects Jahiera. AND... "Truth be told, I would not mind traveling with Viconia." But Aerie hates Viconia just because she's drow, thus provoking Viconia to be cruel to her. Mazzy doesn't like Viconia, either. Jahiera is a bit condecending... condescending... Al Gore-ish towards Aerie, as Aerie's naivete clashes with Jahiera's worldliness, especially given Jahiera's recent loss of Khalid. A big factor in this decision has got to be voice. I like Jahiera's and Viconia's voices, and could stand to listen to them the entire game. Nalia's voice isn't as appealing to me. If I was the PC and I had to choose, I would pick Jahiera and Viconia, simply because they've been around and I would value their input.. even though these two in particular can be just a liiiitle bit biased in their opinions. Viconia's rudeness can be refreshing. Since my party is almost always polite and such, to see Viconia make comments that even I would make at times is nice. Ultimately, though, it all boils down to who you like best. Let us know who you decide on, ok? __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

07-21-2002, 12:52 PM	#7
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	I say, try the new nalia romance. It could be refreshing... __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

07-21-2002, 12:15 PM	#4
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	Leave out Jaheira. Bad personality, only talks about herself and how sad it is without Khalid. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

07-21-2002, 12:49 PM	#6
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Who I like the best? It should be phrased as who irks me the least. Although that only applies to Jaheira and Nalia. The only reason why Viconia is debatable is because of her initial alignment, the reason why she was not even a contender in the first team. Now that she is redeemable, I am giving her a chance, but I want some opinions on this matter first.

07-21-2002, 01:22 PM	#9
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	[img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] ... Refreshing... Not enjoying... Now, on a more serious note.. If you want a good female NPC which you can romance, download Tashia. She is really the best female romance... __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

07-21-2002, 01:35 PM	#10
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	I have the Sola mod and Ascension already. Besides, if I am not mistaken, the Tashia mod is still under testing and not cleared yet.

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