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Old 06-05-2003, 01:39 PM   #1
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D.C. SNIPER TERROR
Chief Moose's wife: Give us
book deal, we need 'antiques'!
Says highest-paid cop just wants 'white group' to give him 'permission to make some money'

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Posted: June 5, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Paul Sperry
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

ROCKVILLE, Md. -- Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose's wife complained about a lack of household "antiques" in trying to sway the county ethics board here to let her husband profit from a major book deal he signed after the Beltway sniper case, a transcript of her closed-door testimony reveals.

Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose and wife Sandy (Courtesy: Willamette Week )

Sandy Herman-Moose argued that her husband, who led the sniper investigation, was entitled to a special exemption to ethics rules against county officials profiting from the prestige of their office, because he has "served the public for 20 some years," sacrificing private gain.

She said she also has "worked hard," accumulating diplomas, books and papers, but few household luxuries.

"I was an activist in Portland. Before we moved here, basically we moved books and documents, and the mover said, 'Mrs. Moose, you don't have any antiques,'" she said. "And I said, 'My husband has a PhD and [I] have a law degree, and we have papers.'"

Chief Moose, testifying alongside her at the March 3 hearing here, cited "law school bills," among other things, in pleading for a waiver from conflict-of-interest rules. He said his $170,000 book deal was a "once-in-a-lifetime" opportunity, and he didn't want to pass up "this good fortune."

Ten people died in last fall's sniper shooting spree, several in Moose's jurisdiction. Three others were critically injured.

"We've been working our asses off for 20 years, all due respect," Sandy Moose told the five-member Montgomery County Ethics Commission.

The panel denied Moose's request for a waiver, effectively killing his book contract with New York publisher Dutton Publishing Inc.

But Moose, in turn, has filed a lawsuit against the county in federal court, charging it violated his right to free speech and expression under the First Amendment. He is pressing ahead with the book, which had been scheduled for release this fall with the start of the trials of sniper suspects John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo.

His wife, a civil-rights activist, suggested at the hearing that the chief, who is black, was being discriminated against.

"He has served in organizations that's [sic] full of institutionalized racism beyond anything you can imagine," Sandy Herman-Moose said.

"And he is asking a fully white group to give him the permission to make some money," she added.

After the panel ruled against her husband, she compared him to Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and other civil-rights leaders who "stood for principle."

Moose's lawyer, Ronald A. Karp, told WorldNetDaily yesterday that he does not plan to argue racial discrimination in his federal lawsuit.

Earning more than $160,000 a year, his client is the highest-paid official in the county, and the highest-paid police chief in the state.



This guy is whining because he only makes $160,000 a year and can't afford antiques. and should be allowed to be exempt from the ethics rules everyone else has to play by.

I also know that there are allegations that the Snipers were not caught sooner because Moose himself would not allow the investigators to follow up initial claims that the shooters might be hispanic or black....and now they are making it sound like "Mean white guys, won't let us make any money" this guy is despicable.
 
Old 06-05-2003, 01:57 PM   #2
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The thing that annoys me most is the playing of the race card. There are many genuine cases of racial discrimination going on out there that are all disgusting and should be combatted, but when an individual or group frivolously plays the race card in order to try and get their way, it cheapens the whole battle against racism.

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Old 06-05-2003, 02:01 PM   #3
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So, he's not all perfect. That shouldn't bar a book deal. C'mon, people will want to read about it. Of course, he could just quit. Actually, seems like his lawyer is handling it pretty much like I would. I might try using the tribunals own ethics rules against it before arguing 1st Amendment grounds, of course. I like that his lawyer isn't using the race card, despite his wife's lack of discretion and taste.

It is the future, and everyone is famous for 15 minutes. This guy's no different.

And, MagiK, not to pick nits, but with all the cops and police precincts who go looking for a "black male age 18 to 31" every time a violent crime occurs, there's nothing too terribly wrong with one cop on the planet not wanting to use racial profiling as the first tool out of the tool box. IMO, that is. Racial profiling is *a* tool, not *the only* tool.

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Old 06-05-2003, 02:20 PM   #4
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So, he's not all perfect. That shouldn't bar a book deal. C'mon, people will want to read about it. Of course, he could just quit. Actually, seems like his lawyer is handling it pretty much like I would. I might try using the tribunals own ethics rules against it before arguing 1st Amendment grounds, of course. I like that his lawyer isn't using the race card, despite his wife's lack of discretion and taste.


Does the fact that he SIGNED the contract that binds him with the ethics provisions when he took the job have no hold on him? If he disagreed with the rules before he took the job, why not just say no and work somewhere else?


It is the future, and everyone is famous for 15 minutes. This guy's no different.


I think he is, he agreed to his contract and signed it....now he is whining about it...and being pretty tacky too.


And, MagiK, not to pick nits, but with all the cops and police precincts who go looking for a "black male age 18 to 31" every time a violent crime occurs, there's nothing too terribly wrong with one cop on the planet not wanting to use racial profiling as the first tool out of the tool box. IMO, that is. Racial profiling is *a* tool, not *the only* tool.


Considering his police force is mostly of "african-american" make up and it is they who have been charged with being the profilers 3 times in the last year....I don't think that is a valid issue here.
 
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