Jam Master Jay (Run-DMC) dead from gunshot wound at age 37

Sazerac · 10-31-2002, 03:48 PM

Sadder and sadder. Senseless violence claimed yet another talented life today. Where will it all end?

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NEW YORK (CNN) -- Police Thursday were investigating the shooting death of Jam Master Jay, the DJ of the legendary rap trio Run-DMC.

Jam Master Jay, 37, was shot in the head Wednesday night around 7:30 p.m. in a Queens recording studio, according to police. Another man, Urieco Rinco, 25, was shot in the leg and taken to a hospital, police said.

Investigators have found two .45-caliber shell casings, but no clues to the motive.

Witnesses described the shooter as a young black man in a white sweatsuit or sweatshirt, according to CNN affiliate WABC in New York.

Police said two gunmen were buzzed in to the building, went up to the second-floor studio and shot Jam Master Jay once at close range, WABC reported.

Fans of the group gathered outside the studio Wednesday night and through the day Thursday to pay their respects.

"It's like one of the Beatles died," said fan Ronald Williams. "They were the pioneers of this game as we know it." (Full obituary)

Jam Master Jay was born January 21, 1965 as Jason Mizell in the middle-class Hollis neighborhood of Queens, New York, according to the group's Web site. He linked up with Run (Joseph Simmons) and DMC (Darryl McDaniels) -- also from Hollis -- scratching turntables for the two rappers who had just graduated from high school.

A year later, in 1983, the group released their first single, "It's Like That."

Known for their loose Adidas-brand shoes, all-black outfits, and thumping beats, the trio is credited with beginning the current trend of combining rap music and rock 'n' roll in their hit remake of Aerosmith's "Walk this Way" in 1986, teaming up with the band's lead singer Steven Tyler and guitarist Joe Perry.

Run-DMC was also the first rap group to be nominated for a Grammy, and the first rappers to have gold, platinum and multiplatinum albums.

And unlike other rap groups, Run-DMC avoided feuds with other rappers. Run is an ordained minister, DMC overcame alcoholism, and Jam Master Jay was a married father of three children.

Any possible link between Jay's death and a rap war was dismissed by Russell Simmons, the founder of Def Jam records, Run-DMC's original label, and the brother of Joseph Simmons.

"They represented everything good and positive about hip-hop," said Russell Simmons in a statement.

"Before the media rushes to attribute this to East Coast - West Coast violence, they should examine Run-DMC's two decades of contributions and Jam Master Jay's personal character," he said.

"This has nothing more to do with so-called East Coast-West Coast violence than the snipers in Washington did."

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Granted, I'm no fan of rap, but I did appreciate Run_DMC's upbeat sound. They were far closer to "pop" than "gangsta" rap.

What a senseless waste.

-Sazerac

Nachtrafe · 10-31-2002, 03:51 PM

Damn! Now that sucks immensely!

I was/am a fan of Run/DM-C. These guys defined a genre, sold millions of records, and were on their way to a HUGE comeback...and they managed to do it without drugs, guns, gutter mouths, and with a POSITIVE message!

*Hangs his head in sorrow*

[ 10-31-2002, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Nachtrafe ]

Ronn_Bman · 10-31-2002, 04:05 PM

DAAAAAAAAAG!

I heard this on the news this afternoon, too. These are the guys who brought rap into the mainstream, AND for Aerosmith fans, these are the guys that revitalized, some would say SAVED, their careers.

There is really too much of this insanity going on in the world today!

Elif Godson · 10-31-2002, 04:50 PM

Senseless indeed, I just read this earlier today and have been bummed about it all day

And a shot to the head, that bespeaks something more then a petty murder, truly a shame.

Ar-Cunin · 10-31-2002, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nachtrafe:
Damn! Now that sucks immensely!

I was/am a fan of Run/DM-C. These guys defined a genre, sold millions of records, and were on their way to a HUGE comeback...and they managed to do it without drugs, guns, gutter mouths, and with a POSITIVE message!

*Hangs his head in sorrow*

A really sad thing

but there was some serious alcohol-abuse.

Chewbacca · 10-31-2002, 05:04 PM

Sad indeed. How advocates of peace can be victims of violence. Hip-Hop lost a real spokeperson today, way more so than when 2-pac or biggie were slain, for they exlempified the dark side of rap that fuels the naysayers and their stereotypes.

Jay, and Run DMC always stood for upliftment and celebration in their music. Thats what I'll remember Jay by, as well as breakdancing in sixth-seventh grade to the groovy beats and smoothy-smooth rhymes. I wouldnt have the love of hip-hop I have today if it weren't for thier music.

Damn, it's like losing a hero

*hangs head down low*

Mack_Attack · 10-31-2002, 05:10 PM

Yes I seen this on the news just when I was leaving work. What a shame. I wounder if it was gang related. I would hope not. But one never can tell what skeletons are in the closet.

But is truly a sad event.

Sazerac · 10-31-2002, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ar-Cunin:
A really sad thing

but there was some serious alcohol-abuse.

DMC had an alcohol problem, which he successfully overcame. And what does that have to do with the "price of eggs in China"? [img]graemlins/1disgust.gif[/img]

-Sazerac

[ 10-31-2002, 07:34 PM: Message edited by: Sazerac ]

AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe · 10-31-2002, 07:45 PM

They were OK, but any pointless, senseless death is really a tragedy

Azred · 10-31-2002, 07:53 PM

This was truly a loss for all genres of music. Run-DMC raised rap from a street form to an art from, showing everyone what rap could be.

10-31-2002, 03:48 PM	#1
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	Sadder and sadder. Senseless violence claimed yet another talented life today. Where will it all end? ____________________________________ NEW YORK (CNN) -- Police Thursday were investigating the shooting death of Jam Master Jay, the DJ of the legendary rap trio Run-DMC. Jam Master Jay, 37, was shot in the head Wednesday night around 7:30 p.m. in a Queens recording studio, according to police. Another man, Urieco Rinco, 25, was shot in the leg and taken to a hospital, police said. Investigators have found two .45-caliber shell casings, but no clues to the motive. Witnesses described the shooter as a young black man in a white sweatsuit or sweatshirt, according to CNN affiliate WABC in New York. Police said two gunmen were buzzed in to the building, went up to the second-floor studio and shot Jam Master Jay once at close range, WABC reported. Fans of the group gathered outside the studio Wednesday night and through the day Thursday to pay their respects. "It's like one of the Beatles died," said fan Ronald Williams. "They were the pioneers of this game as we know it." (Full obituary) Jam Master Jay was born January 21, 1965 as Jason Mizell in the middle-class Hollis neighborhood of Queens, New York, according to the group's Web site. He linked up with Run (Joseph Simmons) and DMC (Darryl McDaniels) -- also from Hollis -- scratching turntables for the two rappers who had just graduated from high school. A year later, in 1983, the group released their first single, "It's Like That." Known for their loose Adidas-brand shoes, all-black outfits, and thumping beats, the trio is credited with beginning the current trend of combining rap music and rock 'n' roll in their hit remake of Aerosmith's "Walk this Way" in 1986, teaming up with the band's lead singer Steven Tyler and guitarist Joe Perry. Run-DMC was also the first rap group to be nominated for a Grammy, and the first rappers to have gold, platinum and multiplatinum albums. And unlike other rap groups, Run-DMC avoided feuds with other rappers. Run is an ordained minister, DMC overcame alcoholism, and Jam Master Jay was a married father of three children. Any possible link between Jay's death and a rap war was dismissed by Russell Simmons, the founder of Def Jam records, Run-DMC's original label, and the brother of Joseph Simmons. "They represented everything good and positive about hip-hop," said Russell Simmons in a statement. "Before the media rushes to attribute this to East Coast - West Coast violence, they should examine Run-DMC's two decades of contributions and Jam Master Jay's personal character," he said. "This has nothing more to do with so-called East Coast-West Coast violence than the snipers in Washington did." ______________________________ Granted, I'm no fan of rap, but I did appreciate Run_DMC's upbeat sound. They were far closer to "pop" than "gangsta" rap. What a senseless waste. -Sazerac __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

10-31-2002, 03:51 PM	#2
Nachtrafe Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: August 9, 2001 Location: Upstate NY, USA Age: 53 Posts: 889	Damn! Now that sucks immensely! I was/am a fan of Run/DM-C. These guys defined a genre, sold millions of records, and were on their way to a HUGE comeback...and they managed to do it without drugs, guns, gutter mouths, and with a POSITIVE message! Hangs his head in sorrow [ 10-31-2002, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Nachtrafe ] __________________ ~~OFFICIAL BOYTOY OF CLOUDY'S CAFE....WELL...OK...JUST CLOUDY!~~ "May the wings of liberty never lose a feather!"

10-31-2002, 04:05 PM	#3
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 58 Posts: 5,177	DAAAAAAAAAG! I heard this on the news this afternoon, too. These are the guys who brought rap into the mainstream, AND for Aerosmith fans, these are the guys that revitalized, some would say SAVED, their careers. There is really too much of this insanity going on in the world today! __________________ [img]\"http://home.carolina.rr.com/orthanc/pics/Spinning%20Hammer%20Sig%20Pic.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-31-2002, 04:50 PM	#4
Elif Godson Dracolich Join Date: August 28, 2001 Location: Hurricane Valley Age: 52 Posts: 3,089	Senseless indeed, I just read this earlier today and have been bummed about it all day And a shot to the head, that bespeaks something more then a petty murder, truly a shame. __________________ Children get Arthritis too! http://awtampa.kintera.org/jaaware

10-31-2002, 05:04 PM	#6
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 51 Posts: 5,373	Sad indeed. How advocates of peace can be victims of violence. Hip-Hop lost a real spokeperson today, way more so than when 2-pac or biggie were slain, for they exlempified the dark side of rap that fuels the naysayers and their stereotypes. Jay, and Run DMC always stood for upliftment and celebration in their music. Thats what I'll remember Jay by, as well as breakdancing in sixth-seventh grade to the groovy beats and smoothy-smooth rhymes. I wouldnt have the love of hip-hop I have today if it weren't for thier music. Damn, it's like losing a hero hangs head down low __________________ Support Local Music and Record Stores! Got Liberty?

10-31-2002, 05:10 PM	#7
Mack_Attack Osiris - Egyptian God of the Underworld Join Date: May 22, 2001 Location: Sherwoodpark,Alberta,Canada Age: 52 Posts: 2,929	Yes I seen this on the news just when I was leaving work. What a shame. I wounder if it was gang related. I would hope not. But one never can tell what skeletons are in the closet. But is truly a sad event. __________________

10-31-2002, 07:45 PM	#9
AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe Hathor Join Date: October 11, 2001 Location: At My Computer Age: 44 Posts: 2,217	They were OK, but any pointless, senseless death is really a tragedy __________________ Now the swinging bridge<br />Is quieted with creepers. . . <br />Like our tendrilled life. -Basho

10-31-2002, 07:53 PM	#10
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	This was truly a loss for all genres of music. Run-DMC raised rap from a street form to an art from, showing everyone what rap could be. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

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