Bastard Sword +3 vs Shapeshifters

Helspanth · 05-28-2002, 08:39 AM

I had my character a fighter with 4 at bastard sword and 3 at long sword do the quest for the Trademeet genies.
The one you are supposed to kill the evil Rakshasha SHAPESHIFTER.
Well I head with my party at her cottage expose her and she SHAPESHIFTS to her natural form and summons her two SHAPESHIFTER allies.
Well guess what?
I am the only one getting "weapon ineffective" message and I am using that bastard sword!!! [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img]
Is this common to everybody or maybe some bug hat got fixed?

[ 05-28-2002, 08:39 AM: Message edited by: Helspanth ]

daan · 05-28-2002, 08:49 AM

+3 doenst necessarily mean that its enchantment is +3 ...
The THAC0 bonus will be +3 .. but its magical enchantment is probably just +1 .. which means the blade doesnt cut it ( literally)

Sir Exxon · 05-28-2002, 08:51 AM

ROFL! Now that's funny. [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Anyway, maybe the sword is only +3 against those who are Shapeshifters of class? Doesnt sound much likely, but it can happen. If not, then I'm not sure.

I never use swords like that anyway. Way too few to choose among, IMO. Unless you have ToB, you can get a real kickass-bastard sword there. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Dundee Slaytern · 05-28-2002, 08:58 AM

Hmmmm... the item description is misleading.

The name is called Bastard Sword +1, +3 vs. Shapeshifters.

This implies that it is +3 enchanted against Shapeshifters, but apparently it actually meant +3 damage.

Fear the sucky descriptions.

Helspanth · 05-28-2002, 10:29 AM

Probably Dundee is correct.Imagine my surprise however when I went full of confidence to strike the Rakshashas!Beeing my partys only fighter I was quite stunned!
Damn I really like bastard swords.I guess I'll have to wait for Foebane.

Morgeruat · 05-28-2002, 10:47 AM

the sword is supposed to count as +3 for what it can hit, but apparently it doesn't, the warhammer +1/+4 vs. giants counts as +4 for what it can hit (very useful as it can hit all the golems in the d'arnise hold.

Helspanth · 05-28-2002, 10:55 AM

Yes I know about that hammer.
That's why I figured that the sword would work in a simmilar manner.
Oh well...

uss · 05-28-2002, 11:04 AM

maybe it only meant the grey, humanoid shapeshifters(damn, forgot the name.. you know, the ones who were all over candlekeep in a late chapter and in a merchant league in Baldurs gate(the city) though that would be absolutely pointless, as the only that kind of shapeshifter in BG2 is the fat guy in Irenicus` dungeon.

Alisttair · 05-28-2002, 11:11 AM

Doppleganger

Morgeruat · 05-28-2002, 11:14 AM

the sword is supposed to work against anything that shapeshifts, from dopplegangers, to werewolves, druids, and mages using shapeshifting spells, all are supposed to be vulnerable, heck if you want to get anal about it the pc should be affected too (once you finish spellhold)

05-28-2002, 08:39 AM	#1
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 43 Posts: 1,050	I had my character a fighter with 4 at bastard sword and 3 at long sword do the quest for the Trademeet genies. The one you are supposed to kill the evil Rakshasha SHAPESHIFTER. Well I head with my party at her cottage expose her and she SHAPESHIFTS to her natural form and summons her two SHAPESHIFTER allies. Well guess what? I am the only one getting "weapon ineffective" message and I am using that bastard sword!!! [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] Is this common to everybody or maybe some bug hat got fixed? [ 05-28-2002, 08:39 AM: Message edited by: Helspanth ] __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

05-28-2002, 08:49 AM	#2
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 39 Posts: 1,644	+3 doenst necessarily mean that its enchantment is +3 ... The THAC0 bonus will be +3 .. but its magical enchantment is probably just +1 .. which means the blade doesnt cut it ( literally) __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

05-28-2002, 10:29 AM	#5
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 43 Posts: 1,050	Probably Dundee is correct.Imagine my surprise however when I went full of confidence to strike the Rakshashas!Beeing my partys only fighter I was quite stunned! Damn I really like bastard swords.I guess I'll have to wait for Foebane. __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

05-28-2002, 10:47 AM	#6
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 44 Posts: 5,421	the sword is supposed to count as +3 for what it can hit, but apparently it doesn't, the warhammer +1/+4 vs. giants counts as +4 for what it can hit (very useful as it can hit all the golems in the d'arnise hold. __________________ "Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison

05-28-2002, 10:55 AM	#7
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 43 Posts: 1,050	Yes I know about that hammer. That's why I figured that the sword would work in a simmilar manner. Oh well... __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

05-28-2002, 08:51 AM	#3
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	ROFL! Now that's funny. [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Anyway, maybe the sword is only +3 against those who are Shapeshifters of class? Doesnt sound much likely, but it can happen. If not, then I'm not sure. I never use swords like that anyway. Way too few to choose among, IMO. Unless you have ToB, you can get a real kickass-bastard sword there. [img]smile.gif[/img]

05-28-2002, 08:58 AM	#4
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Hmmmm... the item description is misleading. The name is called Bastard Sword +1, +3 vs. Shapeshifters. This implies that it is +3 enchanted against Shapeshifters, but apparently it actually meant +3 damage. Fear the sucky descriptions.

05-28-2002, 11:04 AM	#8
uss 20th Level Warrior Join Date: November 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Age: 36 Posts: 2,775	maybe it only meant the grey, humanoid shapeshifters(damn, forgot the name.. you know, the ones who were all over candlekeep in a late chapter and in a merchant league in Baldurs gate(the city) though that would be absolutely pointless, as the only that kind of shapeshifter in BG2 is the fat guy in Irenicus` dungeon.

05-28-2002, 11:11 AM	#9
Alisttair The Magister Join Date: May 24, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 102	Doppleganger __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[beheaded]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/beheaded.gif\" />

05-28-2002, 11:14 AM	#10
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 44 Posts: 5,421	the sword is supposed to work against anything that shapeshifts, from dopplegangers, to werewolves, druids, and mages using shapeshifting spells, all are supposed to be vulnerable, heck if you want to get anal about it the pc should be affected too (once you finish spellhold) __________________ "Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison

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