Around 480 US nuclear arms in Europe, says report

Dreamer128 · 02-10-2005, 03:20 PM

10.02.2005 - 09:57 CET | By Lisbeth Kirk

The United States still has around 480 nuclear weapons in Europe, according to a study by the US-based privately-financed arms control group, the Natural Resources Defence Council, (NRDC).

The weapons are under US control and stored at eight bases in six countries - the UK, Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Turkey.

"The fact that the United States has some 480 nuclear weapons still stationed in Europe will come as a surprise to a lot of Europeans", said Hans M. Kristensen, the author of the report.

Germany tops the list hosting some 150 US nuclear weapons at two locations: Ramstein and Büchel.

The UK holds 110 US nukes at Lakenheat, Turkey has 90 in Incirlik, while 20 nuclear weapons are stored in Volkel in the Netherlands.

Aviano and Ghedi Torre in Italy have 90 of them and Kleine Brogel in Belgium, 20.

Russia has withdrawn all of its tactical nuclear weapons from the former Soviet states while in the mid- to late-1990s, the United States removed thousands of tactical nuclear weapons from Europe.

But they left 480 in place, said the experts.

France and the United Kingdom, in addition, have approximately 350 and 185 nuclear weapons respectively but the United States is the only country that has nuclear weapons outside its own territory.

"If China deployed nuclear bombs in North Korea, equipped North Korean aircraft with mechanical and electronic devices to deliver the weapons, and trained North Korean pilots to draw up nuclear strike plans, there would be hell to pay, and rightly so", said Mr Kristensen.

"Yet that is precisely what the United States is doing in Europe", he added.

The strike plans' potential targets are Russia and countries in the Middle East - most likely Iran and Syria, according to NRDC.

"Holding the nuclear sword over Tehran is unlikely to convince the mullahs to give up their nuclear programme", said Mr Kristensen.

The report concludes that the United States and NATO have no credible rationale for deploying US nuclear weapons in Europe. It recommends that NATO and the US finally end the Cold War by completing the withdrawal of US nuclear weapons from Europe.

The 102-page report entitled 'U.S. Nuclear Weapons in Europe' includes satellite images of the bases that store US nuclear weapons.

(EUObserver)

johnny · 02-10-2005, 04:57 PM

I know, i have a couple in my attic. Wanna buy ?

02-10-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by johnny:
I know, i have a couple in my attic. Wanna buy ?

Ummm, that's nukes, not nudes... [img]smile.gif[/img] I bid $50.00

johnny · 02-10-2005, 07:18 PM

I WAS talking about nukes. Nudes cost more than 50$, this is not Saigon you cheapskate.

Sythe · 02-10-2005, 08:45 PM

LOL

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shamrock_uk · 02-11-2005, 05:26 AM

Still in Turkey? That is surprising! And how come we have less than France?!

Khazadman Risen · 02-15-2005, 02:09 PM

The Russians took the nukes out of the other former Soviet states because they didn't want some future leader there using them on their sorry asses.

johnny · 02-15-2005, 08:15 PM

Well, there are a few dozen of nuclear bombs still stocked in an airport base here in the Netherlands (Volkel). In times of peace they are guarded by the 752 munitions support squadron of the USAF, and in a time of war they will be equipped by the F-16's from the 311th and 312th squadron of the Dutch airforce. And i assume there are several other depots like that across western Europe.

Ziroc · 02-16-2005, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shamrock_uk:
Still in Turkey? That is surprising! And how come we have less than France?!

Yeah, I seriously doubt they are in Turkey now.

shamrock_uk · 02-16-2005, 05:52 AM

I thought they had to be removed as part of the resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

According to http://www.afpc.org/mdbr/mdbr90.shtml however it looks like it may be part of strengthening US-Turkish defense relations (although it doesn't say as much explicitly)

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02-15-2005, 08:15 PM	#8
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 59 Posts: 16,981	Well, there are a few dozen of nuclear bombs still stocked in an airport base here in the Netherlands (Volkel). In times of peace they are guarded by the 752 munitions support squadron of the USAF, and in a time of war they will be equipped by the F-16's from the 311th and 312th squadron of the Dutch airforce. And i assume there are several other depots like that across western Europe. __________________

02-10-2005, 03:20 PM	#1
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 40 Posts: 6,136	10.02.2005 - 09:57 CET \| By Lisbeth Kirk The United States still has around 480 nuclear weapons in Europe, according to a study by the US-based privately-financed arms control group, the Natural Resources Defence Council, (NRDC). The weapons are under US control and stored at eight bases in six countries - the UK, Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Turkey. "The fact that the United States has some 480 nuclear weapons still stationed in Europe will come as a surprise to a lot of Europeans", said Hans M. Kristensen, the author of the report. Germany tops the list hosting some 150 US nuclear weapons at two locations: Ramstein and Büchel. The UK holds 110 US nukes at Lakenheat, Turkey has 90 in Incirlik, while 20 nuclear weapons are stored in Volkel in the Netherlands. Aviano and Ghedi Torre in Italy have 90 of them and Kleine Brogel in Belgium, 20. Russia has withdrawn all of its tactical nuclear weapons from the former Soviet states while in the mid- to late-1990s, the United States removed thousands of tactical nuclear weapons from Europe. But they left 480 in place, said the experts. France and the United Kingdom, in addition, have approximately 350 and 185 nuclear weapons respectively but the United States is the only country that has nuclear weapons outside its own territory. "If China deployed nuclear bombs in North Korea, equipped North Korean aircraft with mechanical and electronic devices to deliver the weapons, and trained North Korean pilots to draw up nuclear strike plans, there would be hell to pay, and rightly so", said Mr Kristensen. "Yet that is precisely what the United States is doing in Europe", he added. The strike plans' potential targets are Russia and countries in the Middle East - most likely Iran and Syria, according to NRDC. "Holding the nuclear sword over Tehran is unlikely to convince the mullahs to give up their nuclear programme", said Mr Kristensen. The report concludes that the United States and NATO have no credible rationale for deploying US nuclear weapons in Europe. It recommends that NATO and the US finally end the Cold War by completing the withdrawal of US nuclear weapons from Europe. The 102-page report entitled 'U.S. Nuclear Weapons in Europe' includes satellite images of the bases that store US nuclear weapons. (EUObserver)

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shamrock_uk Dracolich Join Date: January 24, 2004 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 3,092	I thought they had to be removed as part of the resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis. According to http://www.afpc.org/mdbr/mdbr90.shtml however it looks like it may be part of strengthening US-Turkish defense relations (although it doesn't say as much explicitly)

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