Kingdom of Gay (name modified by request)

[Dave_the_quack]

First, go here to do a little light reading.

Then, go here for the actual site.

Finally, tell us your thoughts.

Heh, I plan on becoming a citizen, what about you?

Edit: fixed up post.

[ 11-30-2004, 02:37 AM: Message edited by: Dave_the_quack ]

[T-D-C]

Hey Dave!

Its been a while since we have seen you posting around here. WELCOME BACK!

I say if they can pull it off then more power to them!

BTW would the rule of the kindom be a king or a queen...... LOL

Cheers

T-D-C

[Dave_the_quack]

LOL hey Timbo. Actually, Dale is known as the Emporer of the Gay Kingdom, and the link above (the lowest one) provides access to details of how he descended from King Edward the II.

I'm not sure if I should be laughing or clapping, but, either way, I'm seriously considering citizenship. Already sent in an email asking for more info

The "empire" is definately all about equality as far as I can see it; it clearly states in the gay constitution that Lesbians must serve for a period of time within the Armed Forces during times of war, no matter their race, religion or station. Haha! Cop that lesbians [img]tongue.gif[/img] Of course, it is assumed that Gay men serve by default.

C'mon fellow IW'ers, give us your thoughts. I'm not so ignorant to think that everyone will be in support of this, so feel free to give your views, as long as they adhere to the TOS of course.

[ 11-30-2004, 12:30 AM: Message edited by: Dave_the_quack ]

[Dave_the_quack]

Ok, we have updates people. In my previous post I informed you all that I asked for more information. Oh boy, did I get it. Although fairly obvious, the first part is my email to Gay Kingdom, and the second part is their reply.

To whom it may concern,

I am a 19 year old homosexual by the name of David, currently living in
Sydney, Australia. For more information then please go to XXXXX. (my gay profile) I think I am interested in becoming a
citizen of Emporer Dale's Gay Kingdom, but would like more information
if it is possible. Also, what are the steps in obtaining citzenship?
Are their any prerequisites?

Would you please add me to the mailing list of the Gayzett? This email
address will be fine.

Thanks in advance,

-Dave

[img]smile.gif[/img]



Response:
Office of the Prime Minister,
The Gay Legislative Assembly, Parliament House,
Heaven, 0000,
Cato Island,
The Gay & Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands.

For all Gay citizenship/passport enquiries please go the Gay Governments
High Court web site at www.gaycourt.org

Dear David,

Your recent e-mail to the Gay Government has been routed to my office
and is acknowledged with thanks.

On the 14th of June 2004 gay activists settled in Australia's
uninhabited overseas territory of the Coral Sea Islands and declared the
territory an independent sovereign gay nation.


The Gay Government is very serious about what we are trying to achieve
and that is a homeland for gay & lesbian people. We chose the Coral Sea
Islands for political and legal reasons due mainly because it is an
uninhabited overseas territory (colony) of Australia. International Law
and the United Nation's charter clearly states, "If an oppressed people
occupy a territory and are governed by an overseas Colonial Government
those said people have a right to self-determination".

After months of hearing Australian politicians trying to justify why
same sex couples should not be equal under law, and after witnessing the
national parliament of Australia effectively say that same sex
relationships are less loving, committed and worthwhile than their
heterosexual counterparts, many of us in the gay community had a gutful,
we had enough.

The Australian parliament introduced and approved legislation banning
gay marriages and gay adoptions this means for example, gay couples are
now being refused the right to visit there partner in hospital (if the
hospital states only family is permitted to visit), under the new anti
gay legislation sax sex relationships are not recognised as family, many
gay couples are now being turned away and refused to allow to visits
their sick partner, another example is if a gay or lesbian person is
dying in hospital the sick person's family, not the partner has the
right to determine such personal issues as turning off life support
machines, funeral and burial arrangements ect, the list is endless
particularly if the dying partner comes from a very religious homophobic
family. The Australian Parliament also banned Australian courts from
recognising same sex marriages that have taken place legally overseas
and have banned gay couples from accessing the courts to have there
marriage recognised. This law also applies to same sex couples who are
not citizens of Australia and who are legally married in there native
country and who say visit Australia on holidays, they are now not
recognised as being married.

Fed up with this homophobic political bullshit and being denied justice
and unable to access the high court because of legislation banning us
from taking court action, a small group of gay people sailed over to
Australia's nearby uninhabited Coral Sea Island territory on the ship
"Gay flower" named after the "Mayflower" who took the first settlers to
America who were trying to escape the religious restraints of England
400 years ago and we raised the gay rainbow flag and declared the 1
million square mile territory the worlds first independent sovereign gay
& lesbian nation. The issue for us is one of equality and hence the
kingdoms declaration of independence is based on America's declaration
of independence from England. Gay people in Australia are not treated
equally in laws regarding marriage, adoption, taxation, superannuation,
next of kin, immigration, hospital visits the list goes on and on.

We are deadly serious in our declaration and we have tried hard to cover
everything we can possibly think of, every politician in Australia
including the Prime Minister as well as the Governor General were sent
copies of the declaration of independence as well as being issued with
the necessary paperwork that formally succeeds our territory from
Australia and that outlines our reasons for doing so.

This has caused a major embarrassment and problem for Australia because
the Coral Sea Islands were uninhabited until the gay migration and
settlement in 2004 and as there is only homosexuals legally living in
the territory, we are entitled to a government and Australia must now
under international law allow the people of the territory to form a
legislative assembly and government and legally recognise that said
government. The United Nation's Charter clearly states that, "An
oppressed people ruled by an overseas colonial power shall have the
right to self determination". The Gay Government is the only government
in the Coral Sea Island Territory, and is the only government speaking
on behalf of its people and it has been established as a self
preservation government and so Australia is in a political and legal
corner and we have them by the balls.

We have also wrapped our declaration of independence in case law and it
is this case law that resulted in the Coral Sea Islands territory being
declared a kingdom rather than a republic, on legal advise we were told
had we declared the Coral Sea Islands a gay republic Australia could
have just declared war and tried to win the Islands back and so could
have just invaded the Islands, arrested those involved and charged them
all with treason and the whole thing would have been a very expensive
and costly waist of time that achieved nothing.

By declaring the gay nation a Kingdom, Australia has to obey certain
laws and rules as it is also a Kingdom. It must follow the British Law
of recognition of foreign governments and there is an ancient British
law that states that a person can not be charged with treason if they
are assisting a defacto prince from trying to claim his crown and goes
further to say that any one hindering those people or the prince from
attaining his crown can themselves be charged with treason. So hence the
Coral Sea Islands became a Kingdom and the resident with the "most"
royal blood became the defacto prince/emperor which unfortunately much
to his embarrassment happened to be Dale because his grandmother is a
direct descendant of the British & French Royal Family.

To date Australia has still not formally recognised the kingdoms
independence but in saying that, they have not said that they don't
recognise the gay kingdom either. The Australian government's official
response is that the matter raised in the Gay Governments declaration of
Independence of the Coral Sea Islands is one of international law and
that the Governor General as Australia's head of state is "looking into
it."

The Gay Parliament also has just passed a resolution calling on
Australia to provide the Gay Government with documented evidence and
proof that the Coral Sea Islands were ever officially claimed by the
British/Australian Crown in the first place. Whilst Australia claims the
1 million square mile territory and its many reefs and Islands in
writing (the Coral Sea Islands Act of 1969) as they were "acquired" by
Australia from England, they do not 'own them legally" as no British or
Australian flag has ever been raised in the territory, nor has there
ever been any recording of anyone formally claiming them on behalf of
the British/Australian Crown. In fact historically the only flag to ever
fly in the territory is the gay rainbow flag, so it is our belief the
British had no legal right to gift them to Australia. The Islands also
have remained uninhabited until the gay migration in 2004 and hence as
the gay flag is the first official flag to be raised on the Islands and
the gay proclamation of independence and succession on June 13th 2004 is
the first recorded proclamation in the territory our claim is legal and
binding. As I write this to you, the government of the Gay Kingdom is
preparing a submission to the International Court of Justice in the
Hague to have a ruling on the validity of our Independence and to force
Australia to recognise it. I can assure you that we won't go away, we
are witnessing the birth of the worlds first gay & lesbian nation and my
government will move heaven and earth to make the kingdom a success and
will do everything humanly possible to rub Australia's nose in it.

We would very much like to ask for your assistance in registering for
citizenship in the hope that this will add weight to our International
Court of Justice Submission. This can be done at the Kingdom's High
Court web site at www.gaycourt.org and by clicking on the "Citizenship"
icon.

Thank you for remembering His Majesty the Emperor, my Government and our
people in your thoughts and prayers it is truly comforting to know that
we have your support and are not alone in our struggle.

God Bless You

David Smith

The Right Honourable Prime Minister
The Gay Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands.
www.gaykingdom.org


I personally could not believe it. I got this reply back in a matter of 15 minutes. Cool, huh.

Edit : damn.. had to edit last three posts. Curses!

[ 11-30-2004, 01:14 AM: Message edited by: Dave_the_quack ]

[Yorick]

I'd reply to this discussion but it might be deleted by Larry so what's the point?

[Dave_the_quack]

If you don't bring up the G word I think you should be fine, right?

[T-D-C]

You can discuss the topic and it won't get deleted.

However if your post goes into a banned topic (such as religion) then it may be edited or deleted.

Really Yorick its all about self control. If you can't post a reply to a topic without going into religion then thats your problem not the moderators.

[Dave_the_quack]

Originally posted by T-D-C: You can discuss the topic and it won't get deleted. However if your post goes into a banned topic (such as religion) then it may be edited or deleted. Really Yorick its all about self control. If you can't post a reply to a topic without going into religion then thats your problem not the moderators.

Nor mine, and I would really like this thread to go further, IW'ers willing, of course.

[Yorick]

Originally posted by T-D-C: You can discuss the topic and it won't get deleted. However if your post goes into a banned topic (such as religion) then it may be edited or deleted. Really Yorick its all about self control. If you can't post a reply to a topic without going into religion then thats your problem not the moderators.

Unlike other Ironworkers, such a blanket ban means I cannot talk about:
1.What my job is
2.My music
3.Problems at work
4.Why or what I am doing in Singapore for example
5.Other major life events such as my wedding
6.My fathers job
7.My grandfathers job

A generalised law does not equate equal effects.

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

My darling, I'm glad you're posting here again, and I'm glad there's a thread about this, and I'm just generally glad... but please, please edit the title of this thread.