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Old 11-10-2004, 01:26 PM   #1
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3999975.stm

This is beginning to get ridiculous ... My favorite part:

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He said there would be an international marketing campaign whereby "tourists can enjoy smoke free environment and the sick man of Europe image becomes a thing of the past".

"There are still national habits which hold us back - the time has come for this parliament to accelerate improvements in health," he declared.
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There is evidence a ban can cut deaths from passive smoking
I would love to see the evidence on how many Scots die from second hand smoke ...
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Old 11-10-2004, 01:33 PM   #2
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Hey,,,think of it as Smoking is a political statement against America, since Tobacco originated here...so if you smoke, you support the US.

Say it like that, and everyone outside the US would stop immediately.

Seriously, I read an article that was either African-based or Chinese-based, and it claimed that the US sells cigarettes to other nations with the intent on killing them. This report that I read two years ago in a classroom textbook in college claims that the US cigarettes sold overseas are more hazardous to one's health than the domestic ones, and had some evidence to back it up.


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Old 11-10-2004, 01:35 PM   #3
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Alas, poor Yorick, we could use you now -- FOR SOME REAL FIREWORKS. [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

Honorable Thread, I hereby dub thee Smoking Ban Round 3. No punches below the belt until at least page 3, please -- *ding* *ding*
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Old 11-10-2004, 03:34 PM   #4
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Well, I'll see if I can dig you up some stats - passive smoking is pretty lethal.

Having said that, I'm against a ban because:

1) I like the occasional smoke
2) In countries and cities that have banned smoking, its been a real hit on small business like pubs etc.
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Old 11-10-2004, 04:59 PM   #5
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I'm against a smoking ban on public places myself, except for places like hospitals and gas stations.

On pubs and bars, leave it to the owners.
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Old 11-10-2004, 05:00 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Alas, poor Yorick, we could use you now -- FOR SOME REAL FIREWORKS. [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

Honorable Thread, I hereby dub thee Smoking Ban Round 3. No punches below the belt until at least page 3, please -- *ding* *ding*
Without Yorick, it will be a short round indeed.

May I...? [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

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Old 11-10-2004, 08:53 PM   #7
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Hey,,,think of it as Smoking is a political statement against America, since Tobacco originated here...so if you smoke, you support the US.

Say it like that, and everyone outside the US would stop immediately.
Except the French. I guess they're our allies after all, eh?
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Old 11-10-2004, 09:18 PM   #8
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Hey,,,think of it as Smoking is a political statement against America, since Tobacco originated here...so if you smoke, you support the US.

Say it like that, and everyone outside the US would stop immediately.
Except the French. I guess they're our allies after all, eh? [/QUOTE]SSHHHHHHH Illum, didn't you get the memo, we're trying to give them all lung cancer.
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Old 11-10-2004, 10:04 PM   #9
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Old 11-11-2004, 02:30 AM   #10
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A note on the Euro/French comment: The USA has done the best toward anti-smoking efforts when compared with the EU. Just your factoid for the day -- no meaning implied therein.

If you do want meaning -- try this: our anti-smoking efforts in the US have obviously spread far and wide. I think this depravation of liberty in a command-and-control manner is another "crack in the egg" the philosopher Hayek once spoke of. Of course, I have a cigarette burning in the ashtry right now. [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]
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