Polish artist convicted of blasphemy

Spelca · 07-20-2003, 05:12 PM

Polish artist convicted of blasphemy

A Polish artist has been found guilty of blasphemy by a court, writes the newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza. To the newspaper's knowledge, it has never happened before that an artist was convicted of violating religious emotions. What Danuta Nieznalska had done, and which upset the court in Gdansk, was to have depicted a male limb nailed to a cross. In addition to a fine she was sentenced to six months of travel prohibition. The artist is upset and says that the judge has admitted to not understanding art.

From: TV 4 Sverige text-tv, page 153 (2003-07-20, 07:53). http://www.tv4.se/
Translated by: Me. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Sorry this doesn't say much - I tried to find more information about this online, but my search didn't come up with anything. Can anybody else find something more? Or translate it from a Polish newspaper (if it's there)?

Oh, and, I wonder if the EU is going to make a comment on this. [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img]

johnny · 07-20-2003, 05:15 PM

LOL All i could understand was the Harlige receptbok.

Melusine · 07-20-2003, 05:28 PM

Er... depends on what limb it is. *shudder*
Religious paintings often portray Christ on the cross, so it would be slightly surprising if they took offense at a simple portrayal of a nailed limb. Of course if it was very realistic or graphic, I could understand why it would upset Christians, but not to the point where the artist would be actually convicted. So possibly it was worse than that. Still not enough to warrant anything like a conviction of course but understandable offensive to people.

Chewbacca · 07-20-2003, 05:31 PM

A male limb...like an arm or a leg? Or a more, um, *private* limb.

Well, sucks for the artist, that's for sure. I hope she sells lots of paintings to help pay the fine.

Melusine · 07-20-2003, 05:39 PM

Yes, that's what I was wondering about too, Chewie. Spelca, does the original Swedish make it any clearer? It can be just an unintentially ambiguous translation on Spelca's part of course, but it did er pop into my mind. And if that's true, I can see why people got upset.

Spelca · 07-21-2003, 02:08 PM

Well, it said "a male limb" in the original, but I think that in Swedish that only means, emm, *that* limb. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Stratos · 07-21-2003, 06:32 PM

Yep I've found it. It says manslem which is the same thing as a penis.

BTW Spelca, it was on page 157

[ 07-21-2003, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

khazadman · 07-21-2003, 08:23 PM

I don't know about blasphemy, but I would definitely "nail" her for obscenity.

07-20-2003, 05:12 PM	#1
Spelca Emerald Dragon Join Date: January 3, 2002 Location: From Slovenia, in Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 931	Polish artist convicted of blasphemy A Polish artist has been found guilty of blasphemy by a court, writes the newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza. To the newspaper's knowledge, it has never happened before that an artist was convicted of violating religious emotions. What Danuta Nieznalska had done, and which upset the court in Gdansk, was to have depicted a male limb nailed to a cross. In addition to a fine she was sentenced to six months of travel prohibition. The artist is upset and says that the judge has admitted to not understanding art. From: TV 4 Sverige text-tv, page 153 (2003-07-20, 07:53). http://www.tv4.se/ Translated by: Me. [img]tongue.gif[/img] --------------------- Sorry this doesn't say much - I tried to find more information about this online, but my search didn't come up with anything. Can anybody else find something more? Or translate it from a Polish newspaper (if it's there)? Oh, and, I wonder if the EU is going to make a comment on this. [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] __________________ At one time or another there will be a choice: you or the wall. (J. Winterson)

07-20-2003, 05:15 PM	#2
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 59 Posts: 16,981	LOL All i could understand was the Harlige receptbok. __________________

07-20-2003, 05:28 PM	#3
Melusine Dracolisk Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 6,541	Er... depends on what limb it is. shudder Religious paintings often portray Christ on the cross, so it would be slightly surprising if they took offense at a simple portrayal of a nailed limb. Of course if it was very realistic or graphic, I could understand why it would upset Christians, but not to the point where the artist would be actually convicted. So possibly it was worse than that. Still not enough to warrant anything like a conviction of course but understandable offensive to people. __________________ [img]\"hosted/melusine.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Your voice is ambrosia

07-20-2003, 05:31 PM	#4
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 51 Posts: 5,373	A male limb...like an arm or a leg? Or a more, um, private limb. Well, sucks for the artist, that's for sure. I hope she sells lots of paintings to help pay the fine. __________________ Support Local Music and Record Stores! Got Liberty?

07-21-2003, 02:08 PM	#6
Spelca Emerald Dragon Join Date: January 3, 2002 Location: From Slovenia, in Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 931	Well, it said "a male limb" in the original, but I think that in Swedish that only means, emm, that limb. [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ At one time or another there will be a choice: you or the wall. (J. Winterson)

07-20-2003, 05:39 PM	#5
Melusine Dracolisk Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 6,541	Yes, that's what I was wondering about too, Chewie. Spelca, does the original Swedish make it any clearer? It can be just an unintentially ambiguous translation on Spelca's part of course, but it did er pop into my mind. And if that's true, I can see why people got upset.

07-21-2003, 06:32 PM	#7
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 44 Posts: 3,888	Yep I've found it. It says manslem which is the same thing as a penis. BTW Spelca, it was on page 157 [ 07-21-2003, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ] __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

07-21-2003, 08:23 PM	#8
khazadman User suspended until [Feb13] Join Date: December 6, 2001 Location: the south side of ol virginny Age: 63 Posts: 1,172	I don't know about blasphemy, but I would definitely "nail" her for obscenity.

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