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Zartan
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Here is the site itself: (it takes a minute to load)
http://opengov.media.mit.edu/ Here is a news article about it. http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,59495,00.html Quote:
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Idea sounds great. Of course, it's sad that our only tactic is to fight back vs. the gov't with what they do to us. In fact, GIA *should have always* existed and TIA should be banned.
Anyway, site won't load for me ATM, but I'll try later. Could by my firm's firewall and access limitations -- dunno. |
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Interesting, on the Executive branch page, it lists all of our Presidents and includes what religion they were/are and who they appointed.
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Sounds like an interesting idea, will be good to see what they produce. However, (you knew there was going to be one [img]smile.gif[/img] ) I want to point out that MIT in particular is one of the most....biased organizations I have ever come accross. I subscribe to the MIT Technology in Review Magazine and have to say, that while they are great at tech...they are lousey at keeping their personal biases and political slants out of the science articles. I really hate this. If you are going to do science, don't use it as a cover for your political spin please. It owuld be nice to read a technical review without having to wade through the bush jokes, slams and or innuendo. |
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Magik, don't you think it is a good thing to know the bias of any particular source? Let's face it, we are all biased. For instance if you told me a personal story that made ex-President Clinton the hero and a paragon of integrity and virtue, I would be more likely to believe it than if that same story appeared in The New York Times. Knowing the bias of a source helps lend credibility or disbelief to a report or story.
Especially in politics it is to often the case where my facts are correct and true and your facts are invalid because they are biased (in a way I don't like). Let's acknowledge our bias and then present the facts/truth as we see it. |
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Hey MagiK, maybe you shouldn't check out that site in case its all fact based encyclopedic information. I would hate to be responsible for ruining your opinion of M.I.T. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Site Lets Citizens Monitor 'Big Brother'
By Jonathan Krim Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, July 8, 2003; Page E01 Ryan McKinley relishes the idea of turning Big Brother on his head. Concerned about expanded government monitoring of individuals, McKinley, a graduate student at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, has created an Internet repository for citizens to provide information about public officials, corporations and their executives. The result, he hopes, will be a giant set of databases that show the web of connections that often fuel politics and policymaking, such as old school ties, shared club memberships and campaign donations. McKinley, 26, was inspired by the military's Terrorism Information Awareness program, a controversial effort to use computers to look for patterns from seemingly disparate financial and other personal data as a way of tracking and halting potential terrorists. "In order to avoid a totalitarian world, we need to figure out ways to make sure it doesn't become unilateral," said McKinley, who is careful not to disparage efforts to combat terrorism. So McKinley, an Orinda, Calif., native who is using the project as his master's thesis for a degree in media arts and science, is drawing on the information-gathering prowess of millions of Internet users. Dubbing it the Government Information Awareness project, McKinley has written a series of computer programs that will allow users to "scrape" existing online databases and add the information to his site (opengov.media.mit.edu). Individuals can also plug in information they might have developed or have access to, a potential boon for whistleblowers, said McKinley's thesis adviser, assistant professor Christopher Csikszentmihalyi. So far, McKinley has populated the site with data from available sources such as lists of White House appointments of agency heads, biographies of members of Congress and campaign-contribution data compiled by public-interest groups. McKinley said he wanted to "seed" the site with such information to give people a sense of what was possible. A search for a particular member of Congress yields a page of the accumulated information, providing in one place what might now require visiting multiple Web sites. Ultimately, McKinley said, such a search might include links to lawsuits involving that legislator, or information showing that a certain legislator and a big campaign donor were fraternity brothers in college. The site also breaks down information by category, including the judiciary and major companies. McKinley even envisions the system tracking local officials and companies. But unlike the tightly controlled TIA, formerly known as the Total Information Awareness program, McKinley wants no part of determining what is relevant or important information. Otherwise, he said, "there would be no hope of it being a democratic system." McKinley acknowledges that this makes the site vulnerable to political extremists or individuals with axes to grind who might post scurrilous information about particular officials. The Web has already been the scene of notoriously bogus sites aimed at discrediting certain officeholders or executives. McKinley developed some controls that he hopes will give readers of the site the chance to properly evaluate the quality of information posted. Posters of information must identify themselves, although they are allowed to choose aliases when using the system. The object of the posted information is alerted, so that he or she can confirm or deny the truth of the material. The material always will get posted, but it will carry the response from the individual. And a user can set the system to disregard certain posters whom the user regards as untrustworthy. Over time, McKinley said, he hopes the system will self-regulate, with relevant and responsible information drowning out the false. "I'm curious to see what happens," said McKinley, who pledged to stay with the project until it is self-sustaining. Courts have generally held that Web site operators are not legally liable for misleading or even libelous postings by others. Some information, however, might be more than a little unsettling to public officials, even if accurate. Soon after the Total Information Awareness program was announced, for example, enterprising Internet denizens posted for all to see the telephone number, home address and a picture of the residence of John Poindexter, the head of the program. A TIA spokeswoman yesterday said the agency had no comment on McKinley's effort. Clyde Wayne Crews Jr., head of technology policy at the libertarian Cato Institute, said the site is a natural evolution of the power of technology that can help check government abuse. "If we're going to be watched, we have a right to watch the watchers," Crews said, likening the program to individuals videotaping police officers in the act of making arrests. He said that if the McKinley site is hijacked by irresponsible parties, a better, more judicious site will take its place. Many features of the site are not yet working, in part because it has been deluged with visitors and cannot handle the volume. A special tracker monitors C-SPAN, the television network that broadcasts government proceedings, and can alert users when someone they are interested in comes on the air. Users can also set up the system to monitor a particular lawmaker and be alerted when new information on that person is added to the system. *\Conan/* [ 07-08-2003, 03:00 PM: Message edited by: *\Conan/* ] |
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Antryg...I hadn't thought of that...good point [img]smile.gif[/img] Chewie.... ![]() |
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