East vs West - more fuel to the fire

[Memnoch]

I'd be interested to hear of *honest* reactions to this article, in Britain's Guardian newspaper.

Western society superior to Islam, says Berlusconi

By John Hooper and Kate Connolly in Berlin

Italy's Prime Minister, Mr Silvio Berlusconi, has gone out of his way to stress what every other leader backing America's "war on terrorism" is desperate to deny - that the looming conflict is, at bottom, a clash of civilisations.

Three times during a lightning visit to Berlin on Wednesday, Mr Berlusconi enthusiastically proclaimed views that will appal Western leaders and confirm the worst suspicions of many Muslims. He boasted of the "supremacy" and "superiority" of Western civilisation and called on Europe to recognise its "common Christian roots".

Mr Berlusconi, who has been under pressure over the handling of protests at this year's G8 summit in Genoa, also claimed a link between Islamist terrorism and the anti-globalisation movement. There was a "strange unanimity" between them, and both were enemies of Western civilisation.

Standing beside German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, at a joint press conference, he declared that he and his host considered that the September11 attacks "are attacks not only on the United States but on our civilisation, of which we are proud bearers, conscious of the supremacy of our civilisation".

He had earlier told Italian journalists: "We should be conscious of the superiority of our civilisation, which consists of a value system that has given people widespread prosperity in those countries that embrace it, and guarantees respect for human rights and religion." As if to rub salt in the wound, he added: "This respect certainly does not exist in the Islamic countries."


Mr Berlusconi began his eventful day with a surprise breakfast with President Vladimir Putin of Russia, who is also visiting Germany. The Prime Minister emerged to tell reporters that "Europe must revive on the basis of common Christian roots".

That remark will not only dismay ethnic minority leaders, but will also be deeply offensive to Albanians, Bosnians, Kosovans and other European Muslims.



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[Draconia]

Hi Memnoch. I will give you my opinion when I haven't taken a sleeping pill and my head is a little clearer. (((HUGS))) I will do that soon.

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[Lifetime]

So someone finally sees the truth and has the guts to admit it

But it sounds bad though..Especially the part about the Christian heritage. I dont disagree, but its not exactly a very good idea to say that to the world..

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No-Name Face

The worst kind of prejudice is state sponsored. Thank god the Pope has made a strong stand for tolerence and understanding between christians and muslims, even visiting yet another predominately muslim country ( damn if I cant spell it ) in the wake of the terror attacks.

The U.S. and the U.N. needs to strongly condemn such language and ideology.

[Djinn Raffo]

Well those are strong words...and i dont think i agree with them...

Mr.Berlusconi has IMHO used strong words and conviction in his statements that, for me, makes him come across as adamant in his beliefs as any fundamentalist terrorist. Such a level of conviction is something to be admired in certain instances however in this one i fail to think this is so...
It seems like he is stirring the pot so to speak.



[This message has been edited by Djinn Raffo (edited 09-28-2001).]

[Aelia Jusa]

Originally posted by Memnoch: I'd be interested to hear of *honest* reactions to this article, in Britain's Guardian newspaper.

What do you mean by *honest*? Does that mean if I say that I think he's wrong not to mention irresponsible for what he's said you won't believe me?

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Goddess and Sorceress of the HADB, and her sidekick Pink

Originally posted by Aelia Jusa: What do you mean by *honest*? Does that mean if I say that I think he's wrong not to mention irresponsible for what he's said you won't believe me?

I not only believe you, I Agree, honest.

[Cloudbringer]

I agree with G'kar, Aelia Jusa and Djinn.. I don't believe he should be making such outrageous statements. Completely out of line.

Cloudy

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[Epona]

For those who aren't aware of current politics in Italy, Berlusconi is a right winger who is prime-minister of a coalition government with neo-fascist elements. I think this explains, although does not justify, a lot of his abhorrent views.

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[Memnoch]

The reason I posted this was because I was curious as to how some of us might react to this perspective. Mr Berlusconi's comments are in the same vein as that of Pope Urban V1 (?) who called for a Great Crusade to free the Holy City of Jerusalem from the grip of the Muslims at the close of the first millenium. They are certainly politically incorrect. But let's take a good long look at the darkest corner of our souls and ask ourselves if there's even a tiny little part of us that agrees with him.

As long as that spark of Bhaal essence is in our soul we will never have true peace on earth, IMHO.

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