House Telvanni and the Mages' Guild

[Melusine]

Guess what? Another question. [img]smile.gif[/img]
So I was wondering, I still haven't attached myself to any of the Great Houses or gotten very far with the main quest but I have been doing a fair bit of Mage Guild quests and feeling quite at home there. I think I'm a Warlock or one rank above it now, and developing a lot of magic skills. So I read that for magic users House Telvanni was the most obvious, though not the only, choice (for those who haven't seen my other topics, I'm a Breton Healer fighting with a blunt weapon mostly and occasionally using magic, with high Alchemy and Restoration skills). I'd like to join them, but I wonder about something. I've had to do a quest for the Guild where I was ordered to look out for a Telvanni spy and that, and several remarks made by mages, lead me to wonder whether there would be a problem with me joining House Telvanni. Will there be conflicts?
Also, I've heard you can join the House in Sadrith Mora. Maybe it's a stupid question, but how do I get from Wolverine Hall (teleported there by guild guide) to Sadrith Mora proper? Do I need to levitate there or did I miss a walkway or what?
Thanks in advance for any help, as usual. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Aelia Jusa]

Well you just walk to Sadrith Mora . The best (or maybe only?) way is to go downstairs from the mages guild until you reach the Imperial Shrine in Wolverine Hall (I think 2 flights of stairs), enter the Imperial Shrine, then go out the other door in there - that will lead to outside. Then go down the stairs and to the left and you'll see a walkway which leads to the road to Sadrith Mora. Then you need to go to the council house to join the Telvanni (walk around until you reach the market area and it's behind there - I had trouble finding it the first time ).

I'm not positive about whether there is conflict between being a member of the mages guild and the Telvanni - I'm a member of both at the moment so I guess I'll find out. However, if I had to take a guess, I would say no - the reason is one of the rules of the Telvanni is you can kill anyone you want in the Telvanni and as long as you win you must be in the right. So I don't think they'd care if you were spying on them or stealing from them or even killing them as long as you did it with flair

[Melusine]

LOL, thanks Aelia!
That still leaves my concern that the Mages' Guild won't like me becoming a Telvanni - after all how would it be different from the Telvanni spy I exposed? Ah well, livin on the edge and all that.
Thanks again!

[Oruboris]

Interesting question: I'm a level 46, head of mages, fighter, imp.cult, theives, and temple factions, recently joined telvani, waiting for my stronghold to be completed [which is in a bloody inconvenient spot, IMO-- would be useless without the multi-mark mod].

Most of the telvani quests have been easy and straightforward. The rewards haven't been spectacular. Weird thing is that my mage mates back in Balmora no longer like me 100%-- they are down to 93%, and I haven't even started the next Telvani quest, which is to break the mage's monopoly on training [in fact, I haven't even been offered that quest, since I reloaded a save from before it was officially given.]

I suppose I hoped for more advanced trainers or bigger, more dramatic missions from this house, since they are supposed to be the official, magical 'bad a$$e$' of the game, and I'm a little dissapointed. Maybe if I'd gone to them sooner, it would have been better.

Oh, and Wolverine hall is a rat's nest: so poorly designed it actually damages game play...

Oru

[Radek]

I haven't found any conflicts. Strange but true. Unmasked, killed, or converted Telvannis in other guild quests (Mages Guild, Morag Tong) did not raise anger at Telvannis.
Only one thing: Avoid Vivec Mage's Guild quests. One of them is "Kill All Telvanni Masters", which you won't like to do most likely. The Archmage rank in the Mages Guild does not need these quests.
It's the matter of ordering. Do Edwinna's quests at the end. She can promote you to Archmage, too, so that start her quests when you reach as high rank as possible.

[ 05-20-2004, 03:42 AM: Message edited by: Radek ]

[Kakero]

No clash but you'll notice your disposition with both sides will go down. then again it's not a problem if your personality and speechcraft are high.

[shamrock_uk]

Providing you can levitate, navigation in Wolverine Hall is most easy. Walk out the mages guild door, go immediately up the spiral staircase right next to it. This'll bring you to a door leading to a battlement on the outside. Just turn right and levitate down to SM. Easy. You don't spend longer than 10s inside the building.

[Aelia Jusa]

Originally posted by Oruboris: I suppose I hoped for more advanced trainers or bigger, more dramatic missions from this house, since they are supposed to be the official, magical 'bad a$$e$' of the game, and I'm a little dissapointed. Maybe if I'd gone to them sooner, it would have been better.

I joined up when I was level 1 and I've been quite pleased with the rewards they give me when I'm so low a level - having them teach me a spell every time I do a quest is really useful when you're weak and poor . Especially the mark and recall! I remember traipsing around everywhere trying to find someone who could teach me that last time