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Zhentarim Guard
![]() Join Date: May 28, 2001
Location: memphis,tn
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ive been severely tweaking my games with new kits, spells, npc's, quests, and items just to add to the replayability. much more and i could put out an expansion
![]() to the point, both to test my abilities and reward creativity, id like to make a kit that [\i]somebody else[\i] wants done. first, describe the kit, what class it belongs to, and most importantly, tell why it should exist. in other words, justify it in contrast to the already available ones. next, give as many specifics as you want. race and class restrictions, weapons proficiencies, ability scores needed, etc. offhand id say dont limit it to just humans as they already have unlimited access to every kit. finally give the innate abilities it should have. fyi, any ability or effect that any item or spell has can be duplicated as an innate ability, so do NOT replicate innates that another kit already has. im looking for creativity here so making a kit that looks like an already existing class(es) or kit wont work. as an example, here's one im fond of: Spirit Walker: mage kit, min 17 INT 16 WIS, no missile weapons, limited to 4 spells per level but has increased casting speed and can cast +2 spells/level, cannot wear ANY type of armor (cloak, robe, bracer), permanent detect invisible (like a lich), healing spells/potions do not work, once per day can irenicus-ize (spells cast one after the other) for one round (fatigued after), immune to hold, +4 to poison saves |
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Symbol of Cyric
![]() Join Date: August 17, 2001
Location: Waterdeep
Age: 44
Posts: 1,222
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In name, "Sorceror" is not a new class. But there was a "New Spell Caster Kit" in my mind for some time. I thinked a lot for its name. And I decided to describe it as "Sorceror" So forget about the "Sorceror" class in Baldur's Gate 2 and 3rd Edition and take a look to this class below.
Sorceror: Sorcerors cast spells with the magical energy within. Legends tell that they possess draconian blood. True or false, they have a potential power within which lets them cast spells without spellbook. They don't memorize spells, they don't use scrolls. They cast spells with their magic potential. A Level 1 Sorceror starts with 10 spell points. He cast spells with these spell points. For example, a 1st level spell costs 10 spell points, a 3rd level spell costs 30 spell points. A 6th level Sorceror has 60 spell points, (if he doesn't have bonus spell points, High Intelligence gives you bonus spell points) so he/she can cast 1 fireball and 3 magic missile or 4 burning hands and 1 mirror image. They gain new spells as they advance levels. A sorceror gains extra HP and SP when he advances level. He gains additional 10 + Int - 15 spell points. The difference between The Sorcerors and Mages is their spell casting style and form. A 16th level Mage can cast five 1st, 2rd ,3rd ,4rd level spell; four 5th level spells; three 6th and 7th level spells and one 8th level spells. The total is 31 but a 16th level Sorceror doesn't have 310 spell points. A 16th level Sorceror with 17 Intelligence has 192 spell points. So there's a penalty for quantity of spells and an advantage for spell selection. You don't worry about "Oh Why I didn't memorized this spell!" Also you don't have a horrible spell quantity limitation like other Sorceror class; you don't gain only 1 new spell per level. I'm still making some corrections with numbers like additional SP should be more or less, or A sorceror should gain more SP as he advanced a new level etc, feel free to share your ideas with me.. For example, I'm thinking about 2 alternatives for new spells per level. - You gain 1 + (Int - 15) new spell. So If your intelligence is 18 you got 4 new spells as you advance a level. - You gain all spells like clerics but you have to choose 2 opposite schools which are opposite between them. (Like Illusion and Necromancy) Racial Requirements Only Humans, Half-Elves and Elves can become Sorcerors. Ability Requirements CON 13 INT 15 CHA 15 Weapon Proficiencies They can be proficient with dagger, club, schimitar, spear, sling, staff and dart. A Sorceror who wields an item which has "Dragon Slayer" ability takes 2 hp damage and as a reflex; drops the item instantly. Class Features They gain an extra +1 to their saving throws for Breath Weapon per 3 levels. They gain %1 resistance against fire,acid and posion. __________________ hhma |
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Elite Waterdeep Guard
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How about an Anti-Paladin, they'd have the same requirements and limitations as a normal paladin, but must be Chaotic evil, and instead of lay hands, They'd have a cause wounds ability.
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Symbol of Cyric
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Good idea Zhakrin, a kit as "Dark Paladin" or "Black/Death/Dread Knight" sounds good. But for alignment they could be "lawful evil" in my opinion.
------------------ "Not for your eyes only, also for your beautiful ears.." Yngwie J. Amadeus Zoltan "Diamond Knight of Aerie Lovers Sacred Band" |
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The Magister
![]() Join Date: June 7, 2001
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Zoltan, I would like to see that "Spellcaster"-kit of yours. Can you or Amergin make it? I would really like to play it, cause I agree with you Zoltan: a big part of the pleasure in playing a mage, is the variety of spells you can choose from. (I read about this kit of yours somewhere else, but I don't remember where) =)
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Zhentarim Guard
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Location: memphis,tn
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i actually implemented something like zoltan's idea when i used to dm. i think a system based on points was more logical. the problem is that to implement that in bg would be impossible. think of binary; everything in this game is either on or off; to do a system where casting a spell drew from a pool of available points would at the least require an entire script, and a convoluted one at that. i wish there were a way to transfer spell casting ability between spell levels (like a 5th level character would have, say, 13 spell points plus bonus points from INT, to be spent as one 3rd, 2 2nd, and 3 1st, or 3 3rd, 1 2nd, and 3 1st, etc).
the anti-paladin would be incredibly easy to make. unfortunately its not terribly original. youd be better off just using shadowkeeper to change the innates around. check around on the links page. im pretty sure theres a dark paladin kit out there (mb potencius' site?). |
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Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom
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I have the 3rd edition DMG here, and I can give you a few Prestige classes from there if you like. You could convert them from 3rd to 2nd. I also have the PH, which has some pretty interesting classes in there also. Alas, I forgot my Dragon magazine! About 5 more in there. So I could give you close to 20 other classes, if you like..
------------------ "In the year of the new century and nine months, From the sky will come a great King of Terror. The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city In the city of york there will be a great collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress falls; the great leader will succumb; the third big war will begin when the big city is burning" -Nostradamus [This message has been edited by Nanobyte (edited 09-17-2001).] |
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Quintesson
![]() Join Date: June 13, 2001
Location: Darkness
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How does this sound?
Soul Reaver Fighter The Soul Reaver is a warrior who has been trained to be able to see past an enemy’s skin and flesh and bone, as an ordinary warrior sees, and into their soul. His extensive knowledge of the spirit gives him some power over his enemys’ souls and some protection from spells that affect the soul. However, due to his study of these other arts, he is not as proficient in combat as is a warrior, and he can only use a sword, which is symbolic of the thin blade that, in the teachings of the Reaver elders, cuts the soul from the body after death. Race: Human, Elf, Half-Elf Must be of Neutral or Evil alignment Can use: Long Sword or Bastard Sword, with up to two proficiency in each. May not dual-wield or use a shield, however, they gain a natural +1 to their THAC0 and to damage, and they get critical hits at a roll of 19 or 20. They may also put proficiencies into single weapon style. Abilities: -2 to Charisma +1 Dexterity Must have at least 16 Dexterity and 16 Intelligence Innate: Devour Soul: Level 20 This skill allows the Reaver to devour a potion of his enemy’s soul, causing extreme pain and injury. Once per day. High damage (20d10, maybe?) and a 3d8 HP heal. Soul Seeker: Level 8 This skill allows the Reaver to sense the location of his enemy’s soul, and thus to be better able to target his enemy. Once per day for every 10 levels of the Reaver. Gives a bonus to THAC0, maybe 1 per 4 levels, lasting 1 round for every 4 levels of the Reaver. Unbind Soul: Level 15 This skill allows the Reaver to free a soul that has been used to animate an undead creature or a soul that has been bound to service through a summoning spell. Once per day for every 15 levels. Has a high chance, maybe 80% or so, of instantly killing one summon/undead. However, this doesn’t work on liches or gated creatures like Planetars, Pit Fiends, etc. Magic Resistance does not apply. Rending Blade: Level 15 This skill allows the Reaver to imbue his blade with a powerful energy that is the bane of the mortal spirit, and which tears at the soul of the victim when it touches them. Needless to say, a weapon imbued with this energy will be much more deadly in combat than it would ordinarily be. Once per day for every 15 levels of the Reaver Gives a damage bonus of 1 per every 5 levels of the Reaver, and lasts 1 round for every 5 levels of the Reaver. Soul Reavers gain 1% resistance per level to spells such as Finger of Death and other Necromantic magic of this type. I have no idea how this would be implemented into BG2, though. Maybe just giving them a modified Death Ward type innate ability would be better. ------------------ Lord of the RaBid Fruit Trees. ChAos rules all! Bwahahahaha... ![]() [This message has been edited by Encard (edited 09-17-2001).] |
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Symbol of Cyric
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Yes there's a different spell casting system in Bg2 so it's not possible to play with this spellcaster kit without any scripts etc..
Nanobyte, I'Ll be very happy if you tell about prestige class and new features in DMG. ------------------ "Not for your eyes only, also for your beautiful ears.." Yngwie J. Amadeus Zoltan "Diamond Fighter of Aerie Lovers Sacred Band" |
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