Best non-fighter fighter!?!

Ezekial · 01-09-2002, 07:15 PM

Just wondering what you all thought the best non-fighter fighter was?

I'm taken with the swashbuckler at the moment!

NB...NOT duel/multi-class...

Glorfindel · 01-09-2002, 07:20 PM

I like Stalkers..... great fun..... But for some reason sometimes my stalkers backstab dont work

Fljotsdale · 01-09-2002, 07:25 PM

I like the Skald (Bard kit), because s/he is a good warrior as well as having an excellent Bard-song and the usual Bard spell-casting ability.
Or you could just take Haer'Dalis with you. He is a Blade (Bard kit) and also quite a good fighter. Though better kept at a distance with ranged weapons, due to not having great armour, he is also pretty good in melee.

[ 01-09-2002: Message edited by: Fljotsdale ]

Nifft the Nimble · 01-09-2002, 07:30 PM

Hello Ezekial!

Probably the best non-Fighter for fighting is the Blade. A fighter-type who can cast Tenser's Transformation, Stoneskin, Mirror Image & Mislead, and can dual-wield Belm and Celestial Fury (and eventually, if you have ToB, the Scarlet Ninja-to), is powerful indeed.

Clerics might be second, or Swashbucklers might be second. Clerics get nice armour, shields and helmets, but with time (and ToB) any Rogue could have them, too. On the other hand, Clerics get many melee-buffing spells (Draw Upon Holy Might, Armor of Faith, Holy Power, Righteous Magic, uh ... lots more!).

I guess we need to define the problem better: are we allowing 'self-buff' spells, are we allowing ToB high-level abilities, are we allowing familiars (another bonus for Blades over Swashbucklers)?

-- Nifft

Ezekial · 01-09-2002, 07:35 PM

I aiming for pure fighting ability and skills, but start up for both..with and without [img]smile.gif[/img]

Glorfindel · 01-09-2002, 08:38 PM

Yeh Nifft, Blades r pretty Damn cool.... and especially when u get the Enhanced Bard Song in ToB.... it removes 1 of the Blades worse Disadvantages

Maniac · 01-09-2002, 09:01 PM

Hehehehe... best non-fighter fighter = Minsc!
Actually, monk is quite cool... and barbabian (too obvious).

SixOfSpades · 01-09-2002, 10:11 PM

Well, I'd still consider Rangers and Paladins to be 'fighters,' because they're part of the Warrior superclass and have the same THAC0, hitdice, etc.

So apart from them, I'd have a pure Priest of Helm out front (Helm is the Neutral one, right?), Tanking in his armor and swinging the Crom like there's no tomorrow, plus casting Holy Blight and Unholy Blight and not being hurt by either of them.

And behind him, Swashbucklers and Blades, as have already been mentioned. A Totemic or straight Druid would be a worthwhile addition as well. And if your PC is a Thief, well, I've got a Neutral Good Assassin right now with 19 STR and 19 DEX.....and Draw Upon Holy Might (before a Poisoned x7 Backstab) is based on levels, and Thieves get levels much faster than Clerics. (tee hee!) Man, I'm even going to be Regenerating while I Backstab!

01-10-2002, 08:33 AM

Swashbucklers are pretty good.

01-10-2002, 08:35 AM

Haveing said that though you couldnt go too far wrong with an assassin- the poison is very good.

01-09-2002, 07:15 PM	#1
Ezekial The Magister Join Date: November 1, 2001 Location: Bournemouth, England Posts: 114	Just wondering what you all thought the best non-fighter fighter was? I'm taken with the swashbuckler at the moment! NB...NOT duel/multi-class... __________________ I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with your flowing blood...<br />Ezekiel 32:5

01-09-2002, 07:25 PM	#3
Fljotsdale Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: March 12, 2001 Location: Birmingham, West Mid\'s, England Age: 88 Posts: 2,859	I like the Skald (Bard kit), because s/he is a good warrior as well as having an excellent Bard-song and the usual Bard spell-casting ability. Or you could just take Haer'Dalis with you. He is a Blade (Bard kit) and also quite a good fighter. Though better kept at a distance with ranged weapons, due to not having great armour, he is also pretty good in melee. [ 01-09-2002: Message edited by: Fljotsdale ] __________________ I\'m your imaginary friend.

01-09-2002, 07:35 PM	#5
Ezekial The Magister Join Date: November 1, 2001 Location: Bournemouth, England Posts: 114	I aiming for pure fighting ability and skills, but start up for both..with and without [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with your flowing blood...<br />Ezekiel 32:5

01-09-2002, 09:01 PM	#7
Maniac Dungeon Master Join Date: January 7, 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 56	Hehehehe... best non-fighter fighter = Minsc! Actually, monk is quite cool... and barbabian (too obvious). __________________ :1dice:<br />DM for life. (Well for high school at least )

01-09-2002, 10:11 PM	#8
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	Well, I'd still consider Rangers and Paladins to be 'fighters,' because they're part of the Warrior superclass and have the same THAC0, hitdice, etc. So apart from them, I'd have a pure Priest of Helm out front (Helm is the Neutral one, right?), Tanking in his armor and swinging the Crom like there's no tomorrow, plus casting Holy Blight and Unholy Blight and not being hurt by either of them. And behind him, Swashbucklers and Blades, as have already been mentioned. A Totemic or straight Druid would be a worthwhile addition as well. And if your PC is a Thief, well, I've got a Neutral Good Assassin right now with 19 STR and 19 DEX.....and Draw Upon Holy Might (before a Poisoned x7 Backstab) is based on levels, and Thieves get levels much faster than Clerics. (tee hee!) Man, I'm even going to be Regenerating while I Backstab! __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

01-09-2002, 07:20 PM	#2
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 37 Posts: 3,337	I like Stalkers..... great fun..... But for some reason sometimes my stalkers backstab dont work

01-09-2002, 07:30 PM	#4
Nifft the Nimble Avatar Join Date: October 4, 2001 Location: NYC Forever! Age: 51 Posts: 520	Hello Ezekial! Probably the best non-Fighter for fighting is the Blade. A fighter-type who can cast Tenser's Transformation, Stoneskin, Mirror Image & Mislead, and can dual-wield Belm and Celestial Fury (and eventually, if you have ToB, the Scarlet Ninja-to), is powerful indeed. Clerics might be second, or Swashbucklers might be second. Clerics get nice armour, shields and helmets, but with time (and ToB) any Rogue could have them, too. On the other hand, Clerics get many melee-buffing spells (Draw Upon Holy Might, Armor of Faith, Holy Power, Righteous Magic, uh ... lots more!). I guess we need to define the problem better: are we allowing 'self-buff' spells, are we allowing ToB high-level abilities, are we allowing familiars (another bonus for Blades over Swashbucklers)? -- Nifft

01-09-2002, 08:38 PM	#6
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 37 Posts: 3,337	Yeh Nifft, Blades r pretty Damn cool.... and especially when u get the Enhanced Bard Song in ToB.... it removes 1 of the Blades worse Disadvantages

01-10-2002, 08:33 AM	#9
Anarion Guest Posts: n/a	Swashbucklers are pretty good.

01-10-2002, 08:35 AM	#10
Anarion Guest Posts: n/a	Haveing said that though you couldnt go too far wrong with an assassin- the poison is very good.

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