What's with Azure edge and undead?

Sir Kenyth · 01-03-2002, 02:27 PM

OK, it seems to me that this axe is a bit inconsistant with the undead it kills. It works great on vampires and the occasional lich. It does not seem to work with ghouls, ghasts, skeletons, skeletal warriors, and mummies. I mean, they don't even make saving throws vs. death! I've even found the occasional vampire attacking shadow theives that didn't have to make a saving throw. I've noticed that the immune vamps all had a couple things in common. They had names and were not "generic" vampires. They also did not turn into gaseous clouds when killed. Maybe they wern't correctly created creatures? Anyway, is this a bug or am I missing some kind of limitation? I imagine the same thing is true with the mace of disruption, although I've never checked.

Level 42 · 01-03-2002, 04:47 PM

AzureEdge has some bugs. You can check out Baldurdash for a fix.

Whailor · 01-04-2002, 05:21 AM

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I would suggest to check the Baldurash for the possible fix. Though I have to say that I have whacked the liches and vampires dead with a single and first hit, yet some skeleton warrior or mummy doesn't get "obliterated", always makes the save throws. For example, I went to Twisted Rune and the lich there came out. I managed to throw the Azuredge just before he spoke to me. The result was: he sait to me "Stop." and then BLAM! He was killed with the first hit

Same fate met the Vampire there, he was killed with the first hit as soon as I saw hit. After that I ran into some skeleton warriors in Cemetary and I had to BEAT them into bone dust with the Azuredge, because they always made the saving throws.

I have killed with it the vamps so that there is no "smokey" could. No gaseous form. Simply tells "Undead destroyed" and done, vamp corpse is lying on the ground and no gaseous form. Funny is to kill the gaseous form with the Vorpal Sword too. Have killed the genies like this, who turn into gaseous form. Just that I didn't get the XP from that sadly heh..

LennonCook · 01-04-2002, 05:25 AM

Where is this AzureEdge ??

D*Ranged · 01-04-2002, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by SookmaCook:
Where is this AzureEdge ??

After getting Lehtinan killed try Bernard.

Sir Kenyth · 01-04-2002, 09:32 AM

Thanks! I got the fixes from baldurdash. Az. Edge had a LOT of bugs. It works much better now. I was right. It only worked on a couple of undead and didn't give the -4 save modifier OR the extra damage. I never realized BG2 had so many bugs that they didn't fix. They must have been in some kind of hurry to get the game out!

robo donkey · 01-18-2002, 03:44 PM

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The Azure Edge may have problems but the mace of disruption doesnt and still kills undead at -4 penalty to save v death. plus if you upgrade it with illithium ore (nebs lair, sarles plot, after cult of the eyeless) it will protect you from level drain too. I killed the lich behind the secret door in the crooked crane in 1 blow with this.

01-03-2002, 02:27 PM	#1
Sir Kenyth Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: somewhere Age: 54 Posts: 1,785	OK, it seems to me that this axe is a bit inconsistant with the undead it kills. It works great on vampires and the occasional lich. It does not seem to work with ghouls, ghasts, skeletons, skeletal warriors, and mummies. I mean, they don't even make saving throws vs. death! I've even found the occasional vampire attacking shadow theives that didn't have to make a saving throw. I've noticed that the immune vamps all had a couple things in common. They had names and were not "generic" vampires. They also did not turn into gaseous clouds when killed. Maybe they wern't correctly created creatures? Anyway, is this a bug or am I missing some kind of limitation? I imagine the same thing is true with the mace of disruption, although I've never checked. __________________ Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.

01-04-2002, 05:21 AM	#3
Whailor Avatar Join Date: May 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Posts: 532	Spoilers can be . . . . . . . . . . . . I would suggest to check the Baldurash for the possible fix. Though I have to say that I have whacked the liches and vampires dead with a single and first hit, yet some skeleton warrior or mummy doesn't get "obliterated", always makes the save throws. For example, I went to Twisted Rune and the lich there came out. I managed to throw the Azuredge just before he spoke to me. The result was: he sait to me "Stop." and then BLAM! He was killed with the first hit Same fate met the Vampire there, he was killed with the first hit as soon as I saw hit. After that I ran into some skeleton warriors in Cemetary and I had to BEAT them into bone dust with the Azuredge, because they always made the saving throws. I have killed with it the vamps so that there is no "smokey" could. No gaseous form. Simply tells "Undead destroyed" and done, vamp corpse is lying on the ground and no gaseous form. Funny is to kill the gaseous form with the Vorpal Sword too. Have killed the genies like this, who turn into gaseous form. Just that I didn't get the XP from that sadly heh.. __________________

01-04-2002, 05:57 AM	#5
D*Ranged Avatar Join Date: January 4, 2002 Location: Wellington ,NZ (I revealed it to people now...) Age: 41 Posts: 585	quote: Originally posted by SookmaCook: Where is this AzureEdge ?? After getting Lehtinan killed try Bernard. __________________ YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN...........

01-04-2002, 09:32 AM	#6
Sir Kenyth Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: somewhere Age: 54 Posts: 1,785	Thanks! I got the fixes from baldurdash. Az. Edge had a LOT of bugs. It works much better now. I was right. It only worked on a couple of undead and didn't give the -4 save modifier OR the extra damage. I never realized BG2 had so many bugs that they didn't fix. They must have been in some kind of hurry to get the game out! __________________ Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.

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Level 42 Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 3, 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	AzureEdge has some bugs. You can check out Baldurdash for a fix.

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robo donkey Manshoon Join Date: January 18, 2002 Location: North Yorkshire, England Age: 37 Posts: 180	WEAPONS SPOILERS COMING UP! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The Azure Edge may have problems but the mace of disruption doesnt and still kills undead at -4 penalty to save v death. plus if you upgrade it with illithium ore (nebs lair, sarles plot, after cult of the eyeless) it will protect you from level drain too. I killed the lich behind the secret door in the crooked crane in 1 blow with this.

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