Solo Front (Spoilers)

Scatter · 01-10-2004, 11:36 PM

Three new Solos underway, and one still hanging on...
Teh latter is at L46 and getting boring. I wanted to get up in those uncounted extra levels, but the thing is just not kicking out enough Armegazers...even Magma Scorchers are a pittance when you need 200000000 more XP for L47. But i do it every once in a while, when i wanna hear Light sssissschhh a few dozen times.

Anyway, the new ones:

Bard/Alchemist. Alchemist L1 (recycling to get bard stuff first) Bard for 5 levels, and Rogue for Stealth. Alchemist for 11 levels (mostly for Portal) One of the 5 Bard levels was actually taken after a couple Alc levels to PP. Then back to Bard, which i was when i finished. (total L27). I fought with sticks, mostly Shillelas until i got to the Doom, and used it to the end. My strategy once i got Doom was to just run up and whack stuff. Worked really well.

Lord. First time i ran a solo without a Stealth level. It was tough early. Couldn't even PP that nice Shield from Burz... But already by the time i got to Al-S (L16) i was relatively fearless. I got me a Light, and DE, and once i had Gold and Infy, i almost never even bothered with the magic shielding. Coulda finished around L20, but i decided to do the Alliance...dragged it out to 29!

Bard/Ranger. Didn't plan it that way, but i decided to take a departure from my usual Fighter or Samurai for the post-Ferro class change. Took 18 Bard levels, so i didn't really have much time left in the game for magic, and i killed Crock, so Portal wasn't important, but i had a Frontier Phaser...and i had PP'd the Estoc from Al-Adryian...

Ragash · 01-12-2004, 07:19 AM

I'm so damn impressed how you manage to play solo chars.. what are the guidelines for soloing anyway? Are you "allowed" to recruit NPCs? I tried playing a few solo chars, but none of them made it through arnika road. Then again, some 6 player parties of mine had a hard time there in the beginning. Anyway...

I need some solo tips! [img]tongue.gif[/img] I really like the whole idea of soloing, but I think I probably suck at it. What's a good character to start with, and when should I dual or triple class it etc? Some general gameplay tips when soloing would be good too!

Ben Lauritson · 01-12-2004, 09:30 AM

GameFAQs has a good guide on soloing with a faerie: http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/game/30661.html

I'm half-following the solo fairy guide it has there, and it's working out fairly well. It's slow progress, but I imagine it will be worth the effort in the end *drools at the thought of the cane of corpus*

Ragash · 01-12-2004, 10:21 AM

I tried following that guide too.. got owned on the way to Arnika anyway [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ziggurat · 01-12-2004, 08:43 PM

If you go back to a month or two ago, I started a thread about my solo Faerie Ninja. You can read about the travails I had. I didn't use a walk thru. I used some RPCs but after awhile I didn't need them. In fact, they may have made it harder! I also switched to a Bishop for protections, then back to Ninja. A solo is slow and frustrating, though. I'm back to my favorite size, a 4-party (Lord, Gadgeteer, Alchemist and Bishop in this latest one).

Scatter · 01-13-2004, 01:23 AM

Yah, i disregard most walkthroughs and go in different directions depending on the character/s. But i think the reason i survive is the amount of practise i give my characters. And most of the time i pick pockets, which is another advantage.

I don't use RPC's, and i would say if you used them most of the game, it wouldn't be a solo.

As to what solo i'd recommend as a 'starter', i'd say Bard, probably Hobbit, with a Thief level around L5 for Stealth. Then go to L19 altogether as a Bard, and switch to Fighter. I took a Fighter level in between there to better handle El-D and Al-S (Infy Helm, etc). I fought with dual Sword and Dagger starting L6. No Light this time, but Fang and Stiletto were sufficient to the task. Maybe if you get Muramasa you might go to Samurai, or if you get the Estoc, to Ranger.
The one thing you may really notice the lack of is Element Shield. The only place this really proved troublesome for me was the few fights in the Rapax area where there were Samurai. And Nebdar got in a good Nuke before i got to her, that hurt. Scorchers can be tough without Element Shield, but they tend to run out of ooomph after a couple rounds, and they don't do more damage than Heavy Heal fixes if the Magic Screen is doing its job.
And Solos can ignore Turncoat, and mostly ignore Insanity.

I just started another Solo, this one's gonna be Bard/Gadgeteer (/Rogue)

Ragash · 01-13-2004, 02:19 PM

When you say you take a Thief level around L5 for Stealth, you mean you practice stealth until you max it? Or do you get to keep the skill when you switch back?

Nightowl2 · 01-13-2004, 06:32 PM

You keep the skills you have when you change class, though some may not be available (for instance, going from fighter to mage, you can't use a sword any more, but you still have the skill).

However, even if you keep the skill, if it's not a class skill for you, there is no way to improve it. I suspect he takes the skill and maxes it out before switching to a non-stealth class.

Nightowl2

Scatter · 01-13-2004, 09:48 PM

I just let some Seekers miss me for a thousand rounds or so, while i go do something else. Stealth will max from the 5 you get in a couple hours. ("real" time) Game time can vary, depending on how many are shooting at how many; anywhere from a couple days to a week or more.

[ 01-13-2004, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: Scatter ]

Ragash · 01-14-2004, 01:32 PM

I tried the hobbit bard, but what do you do for healing in the start of the game? Even with the potions of light heal I pick up I run out of hps fast.. and levels come quick when you're both solo and in the beginning of the game, so I'm level 5 pretty quick for the dual-classing to rogue.. how do you survive the seeker onslaught at that level? There's no way I could set combat to continuous and just leave, I'd get butchered in a matter of rounds [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Another thing that's bugging me is the weight, a solo char can hardly carry anything, and you still need to carry loot to get money right? If you're not an alchemist, but the hobbit bard doesn't have alchemy skills.. as I'm typing this I remember that he's got the pickpocket skill, but is that lucrative at all?

I have a feeling I'll be editing this post 20 or so times, I had a heap of questions when I started and they're all gone now

EDIT no 1: Ah yes, an addition to the stealth question.. won't the critters run off when you're at about skill level 60-70? They always did that for me when I tried doing a solo faerie ninja (with a sidekick healing priest since, as I said, I'd get slaughtered otherwise).

EDIT no 2: Oh, and there's no difficulty setting bug is there? I played Normal in my first two games, but when I thought they made it too hard for me on occassion I switched to Novice in my third, and I swear it actually became harder!

[ 01-14-2004, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: Ragash ]

01-12-2004, 09:30 AM	#3
Ben Lauritson Dungeon Master Join Date: December 19, 2003 Location: UK Age: 38 Posts: 93	GameFAQs has a good guide on soloing with a faerie: http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/game/30661.html I'm half-following the solo fairy guide it has there, and it's working out fairly well. It's slow progress, but I imagine it will be worth the effort in the end drools at the thought of the cane of corpus __________________ The twilight will always be my domain,<br />For it is neutrality I shall retain.

01-12-2004, 08:43 PM	#5
Ziggurat Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 4, 2001 Location: Baltimore, Md Age: 71 Posts: 1,106	If you go back to a month or two ago, I started a thread about my solo Faerie Ninja. You can read about the travails I had. I didn't use a walk thru. I used some RPCs but after awhile I didn't need them. In fact, they may have made it harder! I also switched to a Bishop for protections, then back to Ninja. A solo is slow and frustrating, though. I'm back to my favorite size, a 4-party (Lord, Gadgeteer, Alchemist and Bishop in this latest one). __________________ How are you today, Citizen?

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01-10-2004, 11:36 PM	#1
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 66 Posts: 1,336	Three new Solos underway, and one still hanging on... Teh latter is at L46 and getting boring. I wanted to get up in those uncounted extra levels, but the thing is just not kicking out enough Armegazers...even Magma Scorchers are a pittance when you need 200000000 more XP for L47. But i do it every once in a while, when i wanna hear Light sssissschhh a few dozen times. Anyway, the new ones: Bard/Alchemist. Alchemist L1 (recycling to get bard stuff first) Bard for 5 levels, and Rogue for Stealth. Alchemist for 11 levels (mostly for Portal) One of the 5 Bard levels was actually taken after a couple Alc levels to PP. Then back to Bard, which i was when i finished. (total L27). I fought with sticks, mostly Shillelas until i got to the Doom, and used it to the end. My strategy once i got Doom was to just run up and whack stuff. Worked really well. Lord. First time i ran a solo without a Stealth level. It was tough early. Couldn't even PP that nice Shield from Burz... But already by the time i got to Al-S (L16) i was relatively fearless. I got me a Light, and DE, and once i had Gold and Infy, i almost never even bothered with the magic shielding. Coulda finished around L20, but i decided to do the Alliance...dragged it out to 29! Bard/Ranger. Didn't plan it that way, but i decided to take a departure from my usual Fighter or Samurai for the post-Ferro class change. Took 18 Bard levels, so i didn't really have much time left in the game for magic, and i killed Crock, so Portal wasn't important, but i had a Frontier Phaser...and i had PP'd the Estoc from Al-Adryian...

01-12-2004, 07:19 AM	#2
Ragash The Magister Join Date: April 29, 2003 Location: Dominus Age: 43 Posts: 100	I'm so damn impressed how you manage to play solo chars.. what are the guidelines for soloing anyway? Are you "allowed" to recruit NPCs? I tried playing a few solo chars, but none of them made it through arnika road. Then again, some 6 player parties of mine had a hard time there in the beginning. Anyway... I need some solo tips! [img]tongue.gif[/img] I really like the whole idea of soloing, but I think I probably suck at it. What's a good character to start with, and when should I dual or triple class it etc? Some general gameplay tips when soloing would be good too!

01-12-2004, 10:21 AM	#4
Ragash The Magister Join Date: April 29, 2003 Location: Dominus Age: 43 Posts: 100	I tried following that guide too.. got owned on the way to Arnika anyway [img]tongue.gif[/img]

01-13-2004, 01:23 AM	#6
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 66 Posts: 1,336	Yah, i disregard most walkthroughs and go in different directions depending on the character/s. But i think the reason i survive is the amount of practise i give my characters. And most of the time i pick pockets, which is another advantage. I don't use RPC's, and i would say if you used them most of the game, it wouldn't be a solo. As to what solo i'd recommend as a 'starter', i'd say Bard, probably Hobbit, with a Thief level around L5 for Stealth. Then go to L19 altogether as a Bard, and switch to Fighter. I took a Fighter level in between there to better handle El-D and Al-S (Infy Helm, etc). I fought with dual Sword and Dagger starting L6. No Light this time, but Fang and Stiletto were sufficient to the task. Maybe if you get Muramasa you might go to Samurai, or if you get the Estoc, to Ranger. The one thing you may really notice the lack of is Element Shield. The only place this really proved troublesome for me was the few fights in the Rapax area where there were Samurai. And Nebdar got in a good Nuke before i got to her, that hurt. Scorchers can be tough without Element Shield, but they tend to run out of ooomph after a couple rounds, and they don't do more damage than Heavy Heal fixes if the Magic Screen is doing its job. And Solos can ignore Turncoat, and mostly ignore Insanity. I just started another Solo, this one's gonna be Bard/Gadgeteer (/Rogue)

01-13-2004, 02:19 PM	#7
Ragash The Magister Join Date: April 29, 2003 Location: Dominus Age: 43 Posts: 100	When you say you take a Thief level around L5 for Stealth, you mean you practice stealth until you max it? Or do you get to keep the skill when you switch back?

01-13-2004, 06:32 PM	#8
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 47 Posts: 2,190	You keep the skills you have when you change class, though some may not be available (for instance, going from fighter to mage, you can't use a sword any more, but you still have the skill). However, even if you keep the skill, if it's not a class skill for you, there is no way to improve it. I suspect he takes the skill and maxes it out before switching to a non-stealth class. Nightowl2

01-13-2004, 09:48 PM	#9
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 66 Posts: 1,336	I just let some Seekers miss me for a thousand rounds or so, while i go do something else. Stealth will max from the 5 you get in a couple hours. ("real" time) Game time can vary, depending on how many are shooting at how many; anywhere from a couple days to a week or more. [ 01-13-2004, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: Scatter ]

01-14-2004, 01:32 PM	#10
Ragash The Magister Join Date: April 29, 2003 Location: Dominus Age: 43 Posts: 100	I tried the hobbit bard, but what do you do for healing in the start of the game? Even with the potions of light heal I pick up I run out of hps fast.. and levels come quick when you're both solo and in the beginning of the game, so I'm level 5 pretty quick for the dual-classing to rogue.. how do you survive the seeker onslaught at that level? There's no way I could set combat to continuous and just leave, I'd get butchered in a matter of rounds [img]tongue.gif[/img] Another thing that's bugging me is the weight, a solo char can hardly carry anything, and you still need to carry loot to get money right? If you're not an alchemist, but the hobbit bard doesn't have alchemy skills.. as I'm typing this I remember that he's got the pickpocket skill, but is that lucrative at all? I have a feeling I'll be editing this post 20 or so times, I had a heap of questions when I started and they're all gone now EDIT no 1: Ah yes, an addition to the stealth question.. won't the critters run off when you're at about skill level 60-70? They always did that for me when I tried doing a solo faerie ninja (with a sidekick healing priest since, as I said, I'd get slaughtered otherwise). EDIT no 2: Oh, and there's no difficulty setting bug is there? I played Normal in my first two games, but when I thought they made it too hard for me on occassion I switched to Novice in my third, and I swear it actually became harder! [ 01-14-2004, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: Ragash ]

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