Shoal (spoilers)

Nerull · 06-22-2004, 09:48 PM

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God I hate the whole Shoal the Nereid encounter. It forces me to use advance knowledge to be able to do it. I hate the idea that if your character is the "party spokesman" (which he usually is in my parties) the game punishes you for it by killing your character and forcing you to reload. Thus, you have to send someone else to talk to her just to get through the quest. I just find the whole thing to be such a stupid idea.
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Sorry, just had to get that off of my chest...

Dron_Cah · 06-22-2004, 10:21 PM

I have to agree. Who sends another nPC to speak to people? I never did, until that encounter.

RoSs_bg2_rox · 06-23-2004, 09:20 AM

yeh it does suck! If you were doing a solo no-reloads run and it slipped your mind it would also suck too.

Xen · 06-23-2004, 09:45 AM

Yeah it sucks big time. But life does. Live with it.

Arledrian · 06-24-2004, 11:15 AM

What I hate about this encounter is the fact that I'm always too tempted to kill Shoal on sight with the aid of Kivan, Imoen and some fancy arrows between them, since this nets you 5000xp and a level up for nearly everyone in the party. It's much quicker and easier than playing out the scene ordinarily, but it sucks from a roleplaying perspective, so I'm always in two minds about it.

Nerull · 06-24-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Arledrian:
What I hate about this encounter is the fact that I'm always too tempted to kill Shoal on sight with the aid of Kivan, Imoen and some fancy arrows between them, since this nets you 5000xp and a level up for nearly everyone in the party. It's much quicker and easier than playing out the scene ordinarily, but it sucks from a roleplaying perspective, so I'm always in two minds about it.

Actually, this last time through with a chaotic neutral character, I ended up doing both (freeing her, the killing her before she got away). I had knocked her down to near death before she talked again, so a few hits and she was gone. Justification? It felt right to free her (don't like people enslaved), but I owed her big time for killing my friend (even if she did bring him back). In truth, the encounter ticked me off so much I just wasted her out of spite... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Dron_Cah · 06-24-2004, 10:20 PM

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Armen · 06-25-2004, 03:51 AM

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Originally posted by Arledrian:
What I hate about this encounter is the fact that I'm always too tempted to kill Shoal on sight . . . but it sucks from a roleplaying perspective, so I'm always in two minds about it.

i don't know about that - you do exactly the same to the sirines if you sneak up on them and they look pretty similar - actually the whole red circle thing is a bit of a stretch role-playing wise thinking about it (unless your role is an unstoppable monsterphobic killing machine that's easily distracted from what he or she is supposed to be doing)

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 06-26-2004, 11:48 AM

Hmm... It's also unrealistic, tole-playing wise, to have sirines walking around all over land and attacking you on sight, without warning or provocation.

06-22-2004, 09:48 PM	#1
Nerull Lord Ao Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA Age: 54 Posts: 2,069	[img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] God I hate the whole Shoal the Nereid encounter. It forces me to use advance knowledge to be able to do it. I hate the idea that if your character is the "party spokesman" (which he usually is in my parties) the game punishes you for it by killing your character and forcing you to reload. Thus, you have to send someone else to talk to her just to get through the quest. I just find the whole thing to be such a stupid idea. [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] Sorry, just had to get that off of my chest... __________________ [img]\"ubb/noncgi/smiles/new/ghoul.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br />\"The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work.<br />The lower class exists just to scare the middle class.\"<br />-George Carlin

06-23-2004, 09:20 AM	#3
RoSs_bg2_rox Zartan Join Date: May 20, 2003 Location: Near Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 36 Posts: 5,225	yeh it does suck! If you were doing a solo no-reloads run and it slipped your mind it would also suck too. __________________ [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/dragonwater2.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

06-26-2004, 11:48 AM	#9
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	Hmm... It's also unrealistic, tole-playing wise, to have sirines walking around all over land and attacking you on sight, without warning or provocation. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

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06-22-2004, 10:21 PM	#2
Dron_Cah Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: March 2, 2003 Location: Kentucky Age: 38 Posts: 2,637	I have to agree. Who sends another nPC to speak to people? I never did, until that encounter.

06-23-2004, 09:45 AM	#4
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Yeah it sucks big time. But life does. Live with it.

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Arledrian Egyptian Goddess of the Dead Join Date: July 12, 2001 Location: South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 3,771	What I hate about this encounter is the fact that I'm always too tempted to kill Shoal on sight with the aid of Kivan, Imoen and some fancy arrows between them, since this nets you 5000xp and a level up for nearly everyone in the party. It's much quicker and easier than playing out the scene ordinarily, but it sucks from a roleplaying perspective, so I'm always in two minds about it.

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