bgII vs. neverwinter

Legolas The Magnificent · 08-11-2003, 11:33 PM

i just started the game and i was wondering if i can use my character in bg2 with neverwinter nights. I had installed the expansion pack... just thought it is required. and how can i get access with the shadowdancer class?

thanks a lot

Legolas Greenleaf

Granamere · 08-12-2003, 12:21 AM

It was stated that you could use your BG2 character in the original press for NWN but when the game released that was not there. The main reason is currently the level cap for NWN is 20. Most characters from BG2 were much higher than that. So I am sorry to say you can not import your character.

If you will notice the shadow dancer class has some requirements you have to have before you can get access to that as a class.

To qualify to become a shadowdancer, a character must fulfill all of the following criteria:

Move Silently: 8 Ranks
Hide: 10 Ranks
Tumble: 5 Ranks
Feats: Dodge, Mobility

Once you have these upon you next level up you can choose it.

Granamere

[ 08-12-2003, 12:21 AM: Message edited by: Granamere ]

Legolas The Magnificent · 08-12-2003, 12:31 AM

thanks a lot.

Luvian · 08-12-2003, 04:42 AM

Actually, it's more because both game use different rules systems, and don't even have the same items, so they would have had to strip you of all your items and xp. They don't even have the same attribute creation system, so all that's left is your name. You can easily "import" that.

That's what I read on bioware's website, except for the crappy joke.

Legolas · 08-12-2003, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luvian:
Actually, it's more because both game use different rules systems, and don't even have the same items, so they would have had to strip you of all your items and xp.

Why was that a problem now when it didn't stop them doing just that upon importing a character from BG1 to BG2? Silly Bioware people

[ 08-12-2003, 06:03 AM: Message edited by: Legolas ]

Luvian · 08-12-2003, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Legolas:

quote:
Originally posted by Luvian:
Actually, it's more because both game use different rules systems, and don't even have the same items, so they would have had to strip you of all your items and xp.

Why was that a problem now when it didn't stop them doing just that upon importing a character from BG1 to BG2? Silly Bioware people [/QUOTE]Bg1 and Bg2 are still based on the same system, NWN is not.

andrewas · 08-12-2003, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Legolas:

quote:
Originally posted by Luvian:
Actually, it's more because both game use different rules systems, and don't even have the same items, so they would have had to strip you of all your items and xp.

Why was that a problem now when it didn't stop them doing just that upon importing a character from BG1 to BG2? Silly Bioware people [/QUOTE]A character with all the stat boosts available from BG1 & BG2 would be a *god* in terms of NWN stats. Even a character fresh fron candlekeep would be impressive, since the points system in NWN is *miserly* compared to the BG roller.

Morgeruat · 08-12-2003, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Legolas:

quote:
Originally posted by Luvian:
Actually, it's more because both game use different rules systems, and don't even have the same items, so they would have had to strip you of all your items and xp.

Why was that a problem now when it didn't stop them doing just that upon importing a character from BG1 to BG2? Silly Bioware people [/QUOTE]bg1&2 are still both based on AD&D 2nd ed rather than D&D 3E despite the fact that BG2 mixes in alot of 3E components (barbarians, monks, sorcerors etc)

Legolas · 08-12-2003, 08:25 AM

[img]smile.gif[/img]
I know why it isn't practical to allow BG characters to be imported into NWN, it's the reasons that Bioware gives that make me smile.

SpiritWarrior · 08-14-2003, 03:14 PM

Well you'd think they could have at least compensated for this falsely advertised statement and created a small conversion wizard for those who just insisted on importing their BG character. The wizard could have simply read the character file itself and then created a 3rd edition clone of that character (or near as can be). Even though BG was 2nd edition and the system would not work, there wouldn't really be anything to worry about since this wizards job in the game was to actually converted your character to 3rd edition.

Yeah, a character converter, that's it [img]smile.gif[/img] . Even if it did nothing but match you characters name and coloring that would have kept alot of people happy.

08-11-2003, 11:33 PM	#1
Legolas The Magnificent Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 16, 2002 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Age: 46 Posts: 338	i just started the game and i was wondering if i can use my character in bg2 with neverwinter nights. I had installed the expansion pack... just thought it is required. and how can i get access with the shadowdancer class? thanks a lot Legolas Greenleaf __________________ \"my arrowhead welcomes your heart\"<br /><br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" />

08-12-2003, 12:31 AM	#3
Legolas The Magnificent Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 16, 2002 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Age: 46 Posts: 338	thanks a lot. __________________ \"my arrowhead welcomes your heart\"<br /><br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" />

08-12-2003, 04:42 AM	#4
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 44 Posts: 6,763	Actually, it's more because both game use different rules systems, and don't even have the same items, so they would have had to strip you of all your items and xp. They don't even have the same attribute creation system, so all that's left is your name. You can easily "import" that. That's what I read on bioware's website, except for the crappy joke. __________________ Once upon a time in Canada...

08-14-2003, 03:14 PM	#10
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Well you'd think they could have at least compensated for this falsely advertised statement and created a small conversion wizard for those who just insisted on importing their BG character. The wizard could have simply read the character file itself and then created a 3rd edition clone of that character (or near as can be). Even though BG was 2nd edition and the system would not work, there wouldn't really be anything to worry about since this wizards job in the game was to actually converted your character to 3rd edition. Yeah, a character converter, that's it [img]smile.gif[/img] . Even if it did nothing but match you characters name and coloring that would have kept alot of people happy. __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

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08-12-2003, 12:21 AM	#2
Granamere Zhentarim Guard Join Date: May 27, 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC USA Age: 53 Posts: 372	It was stated that you could use your BG2 character in the original press for NWN but when the game released that was not there. The main reason is currently the level cap for NWN is 20. Most characters from BG2 were much higher than that. So I am sorry to say you can not import your character. If you will notice the shadow dancer class has some requirements you have to have before you can get access to that as a class. To qualify to become a shadowdancer, a character must fulfill all of the following criteria: Move Silently: 8 Ranks Hide: 10 Ranks Tumble: 5 Ranks Feats: Dodge, Mobility Once you have these upon you next level up you can choose it. Granamere [ 08-12-2003, 12:21 AM: Message edited by: Granamere ]

08-12-2003, 08:25 AM	#9
Legolas Jack Burton Join Date: March 31, 2001 Location: The zephyr lands beneath the brine. Age: 40 Posts: 5,459	[img]smile.gif[/img] I know why it isn't practical to allow BG characters to be imported into NWN, it's the reasons that Bioware gives that make me smile.

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