spoilers requested chapter 3 ( Misc )

magnetism · 08-07-2002, 11:19 AM

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1. I have a dagger it sais it has a long skull on it what is this for? (coldwood)
2. Star saphire- what is this for?
3. Is there anywhere to find a wizards chest in act3 if you are not a wizard?(e.i the mage shop)
4. Creator runes - I have broken the alter outside and killed everything inside
however I am unable to get the riddles to activate.. do I need the time crystal to make this work if so where do I find it.. a very general spoiler is fine thank you.
5. Henchmen quest - I have tried very hard to get the grimknaw quest in act2-3 I failed to get past the first or the second part of the story.. oh yeah and grimknaw stopped lvling up he is stuck at 14 though I am 18..any clues you can give me.

Personal note: Could have the note made dragons a tad tougher.. and the day a dwarf stuns a firegiant king with his fist -- well gimme a break ^_^... bosses should be imune to this crap... and frankly i think they need to up the dragon resist to 30 / +5 that would to the trick ^_^

Galadriel E'lyn · 08-07-2002, 11:43 AM

I can at least answer to one of your question: number 4. Spoilers...
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You need the time crystal, indeed, to be able to travel back in time. To get it, simply find the door (in the Creator Dungeon - Present) that leads to the outside garden: it's very close to the center of the dungeon. Go out, speak with the girl that stands there and she'll give you the Time crystal if you accept to plant the seeds for her in the past. Then, to travel in time, you must use the special ability of the crystal and cast it upon a sundial. Hope it helps [img]smile.gif[/img]

magnetism · 08-07-2002, 12:03 PM

Many thanks and my most humble bow...Galadrial
I assumed it was something of the sort however I cant activate the
riddle and there is no door that I can actualy enter... I must have over looked something.

*\Conan/* · 08-07-2002, 01:22 PM

Grimgnaw may want to see this dagger..

What dragons have you fought magnetism? Your telling us that Winter Fang (one of the dragons) went down in 3 rounds from another post I read of yours? No damage to you? I will need convincing of this. I took him out last night and was knocked down at least 4 times, used 7 heal potions, countless amount of rounds of greater raged powered hacking with my strength at 26 with a + 2 greater axe mixed with my improved critical hitting power. I finally put it down. I was freeeeezing the whole time. What kind of character are you? Just wondering thats all. Battle on!

*\Conan/*

magnetism · 08-07-2002, 02:23 PM

Klauth
Green dragon
Blue dragon
Gold dragon ( I am neutral so I felt like things would be unbalanced if I let this guy live )
and white dragon in the snow globe)

I am a monk (18-19)
stats modified
str 19
dex 19
con 14
int 10
wis 19
chr 10

Boots of speed/Dragon slippers
Belt of fire giant str / belt of agility + 2
ring of power(ring of elemental resistance ) / ring of fortitude +4
Cloak of fortification +3
Watchmans helm ( true seeing )
Peripet of Wisdom +3 ( had the amulet of the ages on that took a while to figure out )
Improved robes of the old order
Gloves of long death +5 ( upgaded by winter fang from hin fist +4 )

this first item is what i use now and the second is the one i used on winter fang.

Tobbin · 08-07-2002, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by magnetism:
spoilers follow..
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1. I have a dagger it sais it has a long skull on it what is this for? (coldwood)
2. Star saphire- what is this for?
3. Is there anywhere to find a wizards chest in act3 if you are not a wizard?(e.i the mage shop)
4. Creator runes - I have broken the alter outside and killed everything inside
however I am unable to get the riddles to activate.. do I need the time crystal to make this work if so where do I find it.. a very general spoiler is fine thank you.
5. Henchmen quest - I have tried very hard to get the grimknaw quest in act2-3 I failed to get past the first or the second part of the story.. oh yeah and grimknaw stopped lvling up he is stuck at 14 though I am 18..any clues you can give me.

Personal note: Could have the note made dragons a tad tougher.. and the day a dwarf stuns a firegiant king with his fist -- well gimme a break ^_^... bosses should be imune to this crap... and frankly i think they need to up the dragon resist to 30 / +5 that would to the trick ^_^

I haven't done chapter 3 (actually skipped it and went to chapter 4), but I do know the answer to your henchman question. They can only go up to level 14(without hacks), cause the designers didn't want them to overshadow your character. Remember that before, they would only go up enough levels to be 1 level below your character right? Well, they put a cap at 14th level for the henchman too. Hope that helps. In other words, it is normal.

Aelia Jusa · 08-07-2002, 04:52 PM

The guy in the trading post wants the star sapphire [img]smile.gif[/img]

magnetism · 08-07-2002, 06:40 PM

Thanks -- Aelia 'spose I ought to mosey around a yammer with those act3 yokels,
frankly I am ready to be done with single player... the piss ant dragons just make me mad... remember Bg2 when there were difficult encounters.. I have 70 cure critical wounds just sitting around waiting for a tough fight ^_^

Whailor · 08-07-2002, 07:09 PM

You see, making dragons 30/+5 wont work really in NWN, not yet anyway. NWN has a pretty low lvl limit, lvl 20. If you have tried the Toolset out and done some research and test with the weapons, then you know that making a weapon with enchantment bonus of +5, and adding even 1-2 little useful "traits" to it will make that sword too powerful to use even for a lvl 20 char. Sure, you can remove the level limit on useable items, but anyway.. Basically, as it is now, making a sword like Carsomyr +5 was in BG2 in NWN would make it impossible to use with legit means. Such a sword would require some lvl 40+, if not 50+ just to use it...

That's what actually sucks in NWN. They have made the item creation so automatic, which is nice and way too bad at the same time. Frankly I dislike it a lot, especially when you make some areas yourself and are DM in a game with friends, and at some higher level you want to award, or let them use temporarily something really awesome - they just can't.

Whailor · 08-07-2002, 07:31 PM

Oh, I forgot to add - the Creator Ruins and time travel stuff - you do not solve the riddles in the past. Your job in the past is to make the golems "buggy", so that you can defeat them back in future. In the past you can learn what these riddles are all about. Then you get back to the future, destroy the golems and solve the riddles. And.. well, do what you have to do [img]smile.gif[/img]

08-07-2002, 11:19 AM	#1
magnetism Manshoon Join Date: November 5, 2001 Location: Napa Valley Age: 53 Posts: 166	spoilers follow.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. I have a dagger it sais it has a long skull on it what is this for? (coldwood) 2. Star saphire- what is this for? 3. Is there anywhere to find a wizards chest in act3 if you are not a wizard?(e.i the mage shop) 4. Creator runes - I have broken the alter outside and killed everything inside however I am unable to get the riddles to activate.. do I need the time crystal to make this work if so where do I find it.. a very general spoiler is fine thank you. 5. Henchmen quest - I have tried very hard to get the grimknaw quest in act2-3 I failed to get past the first or the second part of the story.. oh yeah and grimknaw stopped lvling up he is stuck at 14 though I am 18..any clues you can give me. Personal note: Could have the note made dragons a tad tougher.. and the day a dwarf stuns a firegiant king with his fist -- well gimme a break ^_^... bosses should be imune to this crap... and frankly i think they need to up the dragon resist to 30 / +5 that would to the trick ^_^ __________________ Magneticus prefers, like a cat, to play with a mouse that squeaks.

08-07-2002, 11:43 AM	#2
Galadriel E'lyn Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 1, 2002 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10	I can at least answer to one of your question: number 4. Spoilers... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You need the time crystal, indeed, to be able to travel back in time. To get it, simply find the door (in the Creator Dungeon - Present) that leads to the outside garden: it's very close to the center of the dungeon. Go out, speak with the girl that stands there and she'll give you the Time crystal if you accept to plant the seeds for her in the past. Then, to travel in time, you must use the special ability of the crystal and cast it upon a sundial. Hope it helps [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ \"Max Power... Great name isn\'t it? I got it off an hair dryer...\" -Homer Simpson

08-07-2002, 12:03 PM	#3
magnetism Manshoon Join Date: November 5, 2001 Location: Napa Valley Age: 53 Posts: 166	Many thanks and my most humble bow...Galadrial I assumed it was something of the sort however I cant activate the riddle and there is no door that I can actualy enter... I must have over looked something. __________________ Magneticus prefers, like a cat, to play with a mouse that squeaks.

08-07-2002, 01:22 PM	#4
\Conan/ Red Dragon Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 63 Posts: 1,512	Grimgnaw may want to see this dagger.. What dragons have you fought magnetism? Your telling us that Winter Fang (one of the dragons) went down in 3 rounds from another post I read of yours? No damage to you? I will need convincing of this. I took him out last night and was knocked down at least 4 times, used 7 heal potions, countless amount of rounds of greater raged powered hacking with my strength at 26 with a + 2 greater axe mixed with my improved critical hitting power. I finally put it down. I was freeeeezing the whole time. What kind of character are you? Just wondering thats all. Battle on! \Conan/
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08-07-2002, 02:23 PM	#5
magnetism Manshoon Join Date: November 5, 2001 Location: Napa Valley Age: 53 Posts: 166	Klauth Green dragon Blue dragon Gold dragon ( I am neutral so I felt like things would be unbalanced if I let this guy live ) and white dragon in the snow globe) I am a monk (18-19) stats modified str 19 dex 19 con 14 int 10 wis 19 chr 10 Boots of speed/Dragon slippers Belt of fire giant str / belt of agility + 2 ring of power(ring of elemental resistance ) / ring of fortitude +4 Cloak of fortification +3 Watchmans helm ( true seeing ) Peripet of Wisdom +3 ( had the amulet of the ages on that took a while to figure out ) Improved robes of the old order Gloves of long death +5 ( upgaded by winter fang from hin fist +4 ) this first item is what i use now and the second is the one i used on winter fang. __________________ Magneticus prefers, like a cat, to play with a mouse that squeaks.

08-07-2002, 04:52 PM	#7
Aelia Jusa Iron Throne Cult Join Date: August 23, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 44 Posts: 4,867	The guy in the trading post wants the star sapphire [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________

08-07-2002, 06:40 PM	#8
magnetism Manshoon Join Date: November 5, 2001 Location: Napa Valley Age: 53 Posts: 166	Thanks -- Aelia 'spose I ought to mosey around a yammer with those act3 yokels, frankly I am ready to be done with single player... the piss ant dragons just make me mad... remember Bg2 when there were difficult encounters.. I have 70 cure critical wounds just sitting around waiting for a tough fight ^_^ __________________ Magneticus prefers, like a cat, to play with a mouse that squeaks.

08-07-2002, 07:09 PM	#9
Whailor Avatar Join Date: May 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Posts: 532	You see, making dragons 30/+5 wont work really in NWN, not yet anyway. NWN has a pretty low lvl limit, lvl 20. If you have tried the Toolset out and done some research and test with the weapons, then you know that making a weapon with enchantment bonus of +5, and adding even 1-2 little useful "traits" to it will make that sword too powerful to use even for a lvl 20 char. Sure, you can remove the level limit on useable items, but anyway.. Basically, as it is now, making a sword like Carsomyr +5 was in BG2 in NWN would make it impossible to use with legit means. Such a sword would require some lvl 40+, if not 50+ just to use it... That's what actually sucks in NWN. They have made the item creation so automatic, which is nice and way too bad at the same time. Frankly I dislike it a lot, especially when you make some areas yourself and are DM in a game with friends, and at some higher level you want to award, or let them use temporarily something really awesome - they just can't. __________________

08-07-2002, 07:31 PM	#10
Whailor Avatar Join Date: May 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Posts: 532	Oh, I forgot to add - the Creator Ruins and time travel stuff - you do not solve the riddles in the past. Your job in the past is to make the golems "buggy", so that you can defeat them back in future. In the past you can learn what these riddles are all about. Then you get back to the future, destroy the golems and solve the riddles. And.. well, do what you have to do [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________

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