W&W vs. BGII tell me what you think

onthepequod · 05-25-2001, 02:20 PM

Ok now I'm curious!

I initially came to these boards for BGII. Subsequently, I found myself (not quite sure how it happened), frequently on the general discussion board where I’ve seen Moni and RudeDawg talking about W&W. So my question for any of you who have played BGII is, how does it compare to W&W? What do you like better about W&W and what do you like better about BGII?

Sazerac · 05-25-2001, 02:26 PM

Well, it's like comparing apples to oranges. They're both fruit, and W&W and BGII are both role-playing games.

BG2 is set in a strictly Advanced Dungeons & Dragons(TM) universe known as the Forgotten Realms, using 2nd edition rules. It uses a 3/4 down view 3rd person interface, and supports multiplayer capability.

Wizards & Warriors is a 1st-person view game in which your viewpoint is from that of the characters, not from someone watching way overhead at a 3/4 angle view. It does not follow the AD&D system, but has defined its own, strongly based off of the Sir-Tech Wizardry series.

Both support multiple classes and races, both have extremely intricate worlds, and both are addictive, from what I can tell. The nit-picky rules in BG2 drive some people mad, and the somewhat less than intuitive interface in W&W drives others mad.

That's an EXTREMELY cursory overview. Black Knight and RudeDawg can probably fill you in better on their viewpoints between the two games.

-Sazerac

realbinky · 05-25-2001, 02:32 PM

I am a diehard D&D'er. I consider D&D the grandaddy of all fantasy RPG. BGII is one of the best adaptations, and I love it. Plus the story is just remarkable. It feels very much like your party is in Faerun. However, that's the way it feels. Your party. In W&W, the story is weak (get the big weapon, kill bad guy), the techincal pieces are weak (crashes, bugs, harware support issues - where BGII was freakin solid for its size). BUT you feel more like it is you. The first person makes it more YOU oriented. When you spin around, and someone is attacking, you jump, and feel like it is swinging/casting at YOU. In BGII monsters attack your party, you feel a bit disconnected. I love to play BGII, but I can play W&W and my wife likes to watch along too.

Sazerac · 05-25-2001, 02:32 PM

BTW, good to see you here, Onthepequod!

Duhhhh, I just noticed who it was who was posting! Well, that's me being a dingdong again, hehe!

Both RudeDawg and BK are really enjoying the game (W&W) from what I can tell. Cloudy's jury is out on this so far

, and we haven't seen Lord of Alcohol around for awhile, so we don't know on that.

Cheers!
-Sazerac

mdalos · 05-25-2001, 02:43 PM

I am a die-hard RPG person...loved baldurs gate...loved icewind...love final fantasy...so it took me about a day to get into the W&W type game...but now i am absolutely hooked. They are completely different types of games but both great at what they do! Enjoy!

Michelle

Benihaha · 05-25-2001, 03:13 PM

My 2 cents worth....
I've played BG2 quite a bit and started W&W a couple of weeks ago, but the big difference that I noticed is that in BG2 you can Dual class (once) or Multi-Class but you're stuck with those classes. In W&W you can switch roles alot. My goal is to play thru as one or two classes and then start over so by the end I'll have a bunch of characters that can do almost anything. BG2 is a very enjoyable game but I do feel that W&W 'pulls' you into the game more.

Wyvern · 05-25-2001, 05:34 PM

Welcome to the W&W board, onthepequod!!!!

(Like your handle! Just rewatched the Peck movie version of Moby Dick not that long ago)

Wyv

Mr-Eiz · 05-25-2001, 09:26 PM

I love both games
but WW is better
you can do things out of since
in BG yu have to do this before you can do that
but in WW you can go back and what you missed

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Hi Ho Hi Ho
It's of to play we go

T H A N K S
Eiz

Sazerac · 05-25-2001, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr-Eiz:
I love both games
but WW is better
you can do things out of since
in BG yu have to do this before you can do that
but in WW you can go back and what you missed

Oh, I see! What you mean is that BG2 is fairly linear? In a way, W&W is, but you can do things out of sequence between major events (like you can't get to Ishad N'ha before you complete the Crypt, but you can do anything you want to around the Valeia area before that point.)

Good point, Mr-Eiz!

-Sazerac

Tkoto · 05-25-2001, 09:39 PM

Well i've never played BG2, but i can say i have Ice Wind dale, and BG1 under my belt. I think there totaly diffent, and i wouldn't want to choose one. I love W&W for its large range of charater options, and im a sucker for eye candy, W&W has great graphics, and the charater models are enjoyable to drool at. So in my current state of mind i would choose W&W.

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05-25-2001, 02:20 PM	#1
onthepequod Quintesson Join Date: April 6, 2001 Location: two leagues down Posts: 1,081	Ok now I'm curious! I initially came to these boards for BGII. Subsequently, I found myself (not quite sure how it happened), frequently on the general discussion board where I’ve seen Moni and RudeDawg talking about W&W. So my question for any of you who have played BGII is, how does it compare to W&W? What do you like better about W&W and what do you like better about BGII?

05-25-2001, 02:26 PM	#2
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	Well, it's like comparing apples to oranges. They're both fruit, and W&W and BGII are both role-playing games. BG2 is set in a strictly Advanced Dungeons & Dragons(TM) universe known as the Forgotten Realms, using 2nd edition rules. It uses a 3/4 down view 3rd person interface, and supports multiplayer capability. Wizards & Warriors is a 1st-person view game in which your viewpoint is from that of the characters, not from someone watching way overhead at a 3/4 angle view. It does not follow the AD&D system, but has defined its own, strongly based off of the Sir-Tech Wizardry series. Both support multiple classes and races, both have extremely intricate worlds, and both are addictive, from what I can tell. The nit-picky rules in BG2 drive some people mad, and the somewhat less than intuitive interface in W&W drives others mad. That's an EXTREMELY cursory overview. Black Knight and RudeDawg can probably fill you in better on their viewpoints between the two games. -Sazerac

05-25-2001, 02:32 PM	#3
realbinky Elminster Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Milford, MA 01757 Age: 53 Posts: 442	I am a diehard D&D'er. I consider D&D the grandaddy of all fantasy RPG. BGII is one of the best adaptations, and I love it. Plus the story is just remarkable. It feels very much like your party is in Faerun. However, that's the way it feels. Your party. In W&W, the story is weak (get the big weapon, kill bad guy), the techincal pieces are weak (crashes, bugs, harware support issues - where BGII was freakin solid for its size). BUT you feel more like it is you. The first person makes it more YOU oriented. When you spin around, and someone is attacking, you jump, and feel like it is swinging/casting at YOU. In BGII monsters attack your party, you feel a bit disconnected. I love to play BGII, but I can play W&W and my wife likes to watch along too.

05-25-2001, 02:32 PM	#4
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	BTW, good to see you here, Onthepequod! Duhhhh, I just noticed who it was who was posting! Well, that's me being a dingdong again, hehe! Both RudeDawg and BK are really enjoying the game (W&W) from what I can tell. Cloudy's jury is out on this so far , and we haven't seen Lord of Alcohol around for awhile, so we don't know on that. Cheers! -Sazerac

05-25-2001, 02:43 PM	#5
mdalos Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 39	I am a die-hard RPG person...loved baldurs gate...loved icewind...love final fantasy...so it took me about a day to get into the W&W type game...but now i am absolutely hooked. They are completely different types of games but both great at what they do! Enjoy! Michelle

05-25-2001, 03:13 PM	#6
Benihaha Dungeon Master Join Date: May 14, 2001 Location: Helena, Mt, USA Posts: 58	My 2 cents worth.... I've played BG2 quite a bit and started W&W a couple of weeks ago, but the big difference that I noticed is that in BG2 you can Dual class (once) or Multi-Class but you're stuck with those classes. In W&W you can switch roles alot. My goal is to play thru as one or two classes and then start over so by the end I'll have a bunch of characters that can do almost anything. BG2 is a very enjoyable game but I do feel that W&W 'pulls' you into the game more.

05-25-2001, 05:34 PM	#7
Wyvern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Rural Paradise, MI Posts: 5,701	Welcome to the W&W board, onthepequod!!!! (Like your handle! Just rewatched the Peck movie version of Moby Dick not that long ago) Wyv

05-25-2001, 09:26 PM	#8
Mr-Eiz Drow Warrior Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Astoria, New York USA Posts: 297	I love both games but WW is better you can do things out of since in BG yu have to do this before you can do that but in WW you can go back and what you missed ------------------ Hi Ho Hi Ho It's of to play we go T H A N K S Eiz

05-25-2001, 09:39 PM	#10
Tkoto Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 22, 2001 Location: Alaska Posts: 29	Well i've never played BG2, but i can say i have Ice Wind dale, and BG1 under my belt. I think there totaly diffent, and i wouldn't want to choose one. I love W&W for its large range of charater options, and im a sucker for eye candy, W&W has great graphics, and the charater models are enjoyable to drool at. So in my current state of mind i would choose W&W. ------------------

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