*****Spoiler***** Spear +3, Backbiter

David15 · 05-14-2002, 05:15 AM

I was browsing through a list of items for BG on the web and came across this one Spear +3, Backbiter. Does anyone know where it is/might be? it's code is SPER03

The Ozzman · 05-14-2002, 05:37 AM

i believe it is somewhere in the expanson quests, but don't get too excited, i think its cursed.

SixOfSpades · 05-14-2002, 08:34 PM

The spear IS cursed, and for some reason does not exist in the game at all--the only way to get it is to CLUA it in. I don't know why the designers chose to leave it out, adding more weird items like Backbiter adds to the variety. Other 'nonexistent' items include the Helm of Charm Protection and a pair of unenchanted Bracers.

David15 · 05-15-2002, 02:49 AM

Weird. So why do the designers come up with a weapon like that and then leave it out? BTW, does anyone know where the Helms of Defence and Opposite Alignment are?

SixOfSpades · 05-15-2002, 09:39 PM

The Helmet of Defense does exist quite legally, but I'm not going to say where. Do the legwork and earn it yourself--you'll feel better for it, trust me. It's actually easy enough to find, if you're the kind that likes to go everywhere & do everything. You'll have to fight for it, but what did you expect?

The Helm of Opposite Alignment also can be obtained without cheating, but it is sooooo difficult. If you have ToSC, the Helm is worn by the Demonknight when he's on the ground floor. Good Luck! I've done it--ONCE.

David15 · 05-16-2002, 04:40 AM

The DemonKnight? I've finished Durlags' Tower and killed him by using the Mirror of Opposition, then finishing him off after he killed his double. He only had a Shield +1 and Soultaker on him, I think. So maybe I have to kill him without the Mirror of Opposition?

SixOfSpades · 05-16-2002, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
[QB]If you have ToSC, the Helm is worn by the Demonknight when he's on the ground floor.

By 'ground' floor, I mean the floor that's at ground level (the very first one you enter in any buiding, before taking any stairs), as opposed to the very lowest floor. Beating the Demonknight on Durlag's -5 is a minor challenge, but killing him on Durlag's 0 is damn near impossible, without cheating.

Beaumanoir · 05-17-2002, 04:03 PM

On The First Floor?! That's Impossible! He Just Dissapears After About 10 Seconds!!!

Lanthir · 05-17-2002, 07:46 PM

I attacked him and he just laughed at my attempts then left.
Big bully

David15 · 05-18-2002, 10:10 AM

I'm glad I'm not the only one to be astounded by the difficulty of killing him on the 1st floor. Does anyone have any tactics/strategies?

05-14-2002, 05:37 AM	#2
The Ozzman Zhentarim Guard Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: inland empire, ca Age: 49 Posts: 316	i believe it is somewhere in the expanson quests, but don't get too excited, i think its cursed. __________________ I\'ll talk BG anytime, AIM is: GreaterMalison

05-14-2002, 08:34 PM	#3
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	The spear IS cursed, and for some reason does not exist in the game at all--the only way to get it is to CLUA it in. I don't know why the designers chose to leave it out, adding more weird items like Backbiter adds to the variety. Other 'nonexistent' items include the Helm of Charm Protection and a pair of unenchanted Bracers. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

05-15-2002, 09:39 PM	#5
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	The Helmet of Defense does exist quite legally, but I'm not going to say where. Do the legwork and earn it yourself--you'll feel better for it, trust me. It's actually easy enough to find, if you're the kind that likes to go everywhere & do everything. You'll have to fight for it, but what did you expect? The Helm of Opposite Alignment also can be obtained without cheating, but it is sooooo difficult. If you have ToSC, the Helm is worn by the Demonknight when he's on the ground floor. Good Luck! I've done it--ONCE. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

05-17-2002, 04:03 PM	#8
Beaumanoir Iron Throne Cult Join Date: June 3, 2001 Location: There is no IRL, Only AFK. Age: 36 Posts: 4,896	On The First Floor?! That's Impossible! He Just Dissapears After About 10 Seconds!!! __________________ My pokemon bring all the boys to the yard, and they're like; you wanna trade cards? Damn right, I wanna trade cards, I'll trade this but not my Charizard.

05-17-2002, 07:46 PM	#9
Lanthir Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: April 3, 2002 Location: West Palm Beach Age: 44 Posts: 612	I attacked him and he just laughed at my attempts then left. Big bully __________________ <br /><br />[url]\"http://home.talkcity.com/ImaginaryPl/lanthir/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">All About Lanthir</a>

05-14-2002, 05:15 AM	#1
David15 Dungeon Master Join Date: January 6, 2002 Location: Australia/Bulgaria Posts: 81	I was browsing through a list of items for BG on the web and came across this one Spear +3, Backbiter. Does anyone know where it is/might be? it's code is SPER03

05-15-2002, 02:49 AM	#4
David15 Dungeon Master Join Date: January 6, 2002 Location: Australia/Bulgaria Posts: 81	Weird. So why do the designers come up with a weapon like that and then leave it out? BTW, does anyone know where the Helms of Defence and Opposite Alignment are?

05-16-2002, 04:40 AM	#6
David15 Dungeon Master Join Date: January 6, 2002 Location: Australia/Bulgaria Posts: 81	The DemonKnight? I've finished Durlags' Tower and killed him by using the Mirror of Opposition, then finishing him off after he killed his double. He only had a Shield +1 and Soultaker on him, I think. So maybe I have to kill him without the Mirror of Opposition?

05-18-2002, 10:10 AM	#10
David15 Dungeon Master Join Date: January 6, 2002 Location: Australia/Bulgaria Posts: 81	I'm glad I'm not the only one to be astounded by the difficulty of killing him on the 1st floor. Does anyone have any tactics/strategies?

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