Baffled and need a Watcher's spoiler

myersklavin · 09-30-2004, 04:56 PM

I have already played through about half of Watchers Keep and I forgot how I managed to "perform the ritual" to get to the second level thru the gate in the big statue room- I have the book, bell and candle and went into the tomb room and gave the ghost his slippers and memorized the ritual, collected the scraps of paper that denote the order of what to do. The first time I placed the items on the altar, some statues came to life and I battled them-I had to conduct a tactical retreat because they were beating up a couple characters. Then I went back the next day(after rest) and replaced the items and nothing happened. I recall the first time I played this part, there was a dialogue prompting me to do things in the right order. But I can't get this to come up. I lit the stove in the west room and the ghost appeared, with little of use to say. What's wrong?!?

Moon-Child_Lman · 10-01-2004, 01:52 AM

Did you kill the statues after that?

T-D-C · 10-01-2004, 02:40 AM

IIRC, the portal opens after you complete the ritual. The status also attack after the ritual.

So when the statues attacked the portal should have already been open.

I may be mistaken as I havn't played Watchers Keep for a while.

myersklavin · 10-01-2004, 02:15 PM

(SPOILER ALERT!)I've loaded and reloaded the thing and tried several permutations- The first time I did it, everything seemed to flow smoothly, this time, everything is cockeyed; when i put the bell and candle on the altar, some statues attack. I defeat them (barely)an Aerial Servant summoned by one of the statues is still fighting me when, LO! the ritual dialog appears. I ran thru the sequence properly (take notes!) then the dialog said "the altar glows, you can pass"-but another wave of tough statues came to life-I barely killed them. Then, all beat up, the party rested and get this! After resting they try to go thru the portal and a message says "somehow the statues are preventing you from going thru" Well- there AREN'T any statues. I'm going crazy with this!

Moon-Child_Lman · 10-01-2004, 02:32 PM

[img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] I never heard of such a thing. Maybe there are still statues. Look through the entire area.

myersklavin · 10-01-2004, 02:37 PM

If I find I've managed to bungle up the sequence and I'm stuck, does anyone have a CLUA code to get into level 2? I've gone thru this bell book and candle thing 4 or 5 times now and I'm starting to rue the idea of spending more time on it.

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 10-01-2004, 05:10 PM

Are you fully patched?

myersklavin · 10-02-2004, 02:09 PM

I believe so- full install. It says version 2.0 (I have Mac version, so I am not certain what differences there are) I have monkeyed around with the CLUA codes a little, but the lists of areas I have seen floating around don't have Throne of Baal areas.

Imrahil · 10-03-2004, 05:43 PM

The only Global variables I can find that look like they deal with opening the portals are...

OPENDUNGEONDOOR1
OPENDUNGEONDOOR2
OPENDUNGEONDOOR3
OPENDUNGEONDOOR4
OPENDUNGEONDOOR5

In a save game where I'm past WK, they're all set to 2 except the last one, which is set to 1. You could check what yours are set to & (probably) play with the first 2 to open the portal and/or open the doors outside the Keep itself.

- Imrahil

myersklavin · 10-04-2004, 06:11 PM

Well, I'm pegged for a technically in-savvy navvy, but what's the proper syntaxtually correct way to enter those codes...
Like, how would I type it in (Hey, I'm a researcher...)
Thanks to all those who have thrown me suggestions. I have wracked my brain and I can't figure out why it was so easy the first game and this time I can't get it to work.

09-30-2004, 04:56 PM	#1
myersklavin Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 2, 2004 Location: Portland OR Age: 59 Posts: 20	I have already played through about half of Watchers Keep and I forgot how I managed to "perform the ritual" to get to the second level thru the gate in the big statue room- I have the book, bell and candle and went into the tomb room and gave the ghost his slippers and memorized the ritual, collected the scraps of paper that denote the order of what to do. The first time I placed the items on the altar, some statues came to life and I battled them-I had to conduct a tactical retreat because they were beating up a couple characters. Then I went back the next day(after rest) and replaced the items and nothing happened. I recall the first time I played this part, there was a dialogue prompting me to do things in the right order. But I can't get this to come up. I lit the stove in the west room and the ghost appeared, with little of use to say. What's wrong?!? __________________ America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization. - Georges Clemenceau

10-01-2004, 01:52 AM	#2
Moon-Child_Lman Drow Warrior Join Date: August 17, 2004 Location: Suldanessellar Age: 36 Posts: 291	Did you kill the statues after that? __________________ [img]\"http://img76.exs.cx/img76/70/Garrick.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Elen síla lúmenn\' omentielvo, my friends.

10-01-2004, 02:40 AM	#3
T-D-C Ironworks Moderator Join Date: October 26, 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 44 Posts: 4,416	IIRC, the portal opens after you complete the ritual. The status also attack after the ritual. So when the statues attacked the portal should have already been open. I may be mistaken as I havn't played Watchers Keep for a while. __________________

10-01-2004, 02:15 PM	#4
myersklavin Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 2, 2004 Location: Portland OR Age: 59 Posts: 20	(SPOILER ALERT!)I've loaded and reloaded the thing and tried several permutations- The first time I did it, everything seemed to flow smoothly, this time, everything is cockeyed; when i put the bell and candle on the altar, some statues attack. I defeat them (barely)an Aerial Servant summoned by one of the statues is still fighting me when, LO! the ritual dialog appears. I ran thru the sequence properly (take notes!) then the dialog said "the altar glows, you can pass"-but another wave of tough statues came to life-I barely killed them. Then, all beat up, the party rested and get this! After resting they try to go thru the portal and a message says "somehow the statues are preventing you from going thru" Well- there AREN'T any statues. I'm going crazy with this! __________________ America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization. - Georges Clemenceau

10-01-2004, 02:32 PM	#5
Moon-Child_Lman Drow Warrior Join Date: August 17, 2004 Location: Suldanessellar Age: 36 Posts: 291	[img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] I never heard of such a thing. Maybe there are still statues. Look through the entire area. __________________ [img]\"http://img76.exs.cx/img76/70/Garrick.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Elen síla lúmenn\' omentielvo, my friends.

10-01-2004, 02:37 PM	#6
myersklavin Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 2, 2004 Location: Portland OR Age: 59 Posts: 20	If I find I've managed to bungle up the sequence and I'm stuck, does anyone have a CLUA code to get into level 2? I've gone thru this bell book and candle thing 4 or 5 times now and I'm starting to rue the idea of spending more time on it. __________________ America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization. - Georges Clemenceau

10-01-2004, 05:10 PM	#7
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	Are you fully patched? __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

10-02-2004, 02:09 PM	#8
myersklavin Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 2, 2004 Location: Portland OR Age: 59 Posts: 20	I believe so- full install. It says version 2.0 (I have Mac version, so I am not certain what differences there are) I have monkeyed around with the CLUA codes a little, but the lists of areas I have seen floating around don't have Throne of Baal areas. __________________ America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization. - Georges Clemenceau

10-03-2004, 05:43 PM	#9
Imrahil Elminster Join Date: November 4, 2001 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 469	The only Global variables I can find that look like they deal with opening the portals are... OPENDUNGEONDOOR1 OPENDUNGEONDOOR2 OPENDUNGEONDOOR3 OPENDUNGEONDOOR4 OPENDUNGEONDOOR5 In a save game where I'm past WK, they're all set to 2 except the last one, which is set to 1. You could check what yours are set to & (probably) play with the first 2 to open the portal and/or open the doors outside the Keep itself. - Imrahil

10-04-2004, 06:11 PM	#10
myersklavin Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 2, 2004 Location: Portland OR Age: 59 Posts: 20	Well, I'm pegged for a technically in-savvy navvy, but what's the proper syntaxtually correct way to enter those codes... Like, how would I type it in (Hey, I'm a researcher...) Thanks to all those who have thrown me suggestions. I have wracked my brain and I can't figure out why it was so easy the first game and this time I can't get it to work. __________________ America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization. - Georges Clemenceau

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