Viconia, Amonen, Saverok, and other minor issues

Agrippina · 02-16-2002, 06:25 AM

First time poster, many time reader..

Let me get right to the point. [img]smile.gif[/img]

1) Viconia is hot. I want to have a romance with her all the way through TOB. But I heard some nasty rumors.... Like she dies? Is that true? If so, that kinda ruins my romance with Viconia idea. I also heard that she can be converted to TN. Is that also true? If so, what alignment does your char have to be?

2) I've read on prior posts that some people do not believe that Amonen does turns LG. He does do so, after he is knighted, at least if your char is female.. I think this is due to the romance he has with you.

3) Saverok. I just found him in TOB. This guy kicks serious ass. Has anyone checked out his stats? DAMN. Since I like to play mage chars, I've always found myself a bit short on solid SWORD fighters to play. Since I want to romance with Viconia, having that Paly from the sewers is a bad idea (he tries to kill her). And, since I'm not an axe man (that korgan guy in the copper comet), I've found myself, relunctantly modifying Valgar to turn him into a fighter using Shadowkeeper. It bothers me to cheat, but I figure that since I could always create an identical char using a Multiplayer game, what's the difference? I'd like other people's thoughts on this. Finally, sure minsc is not bad, but I get sick of his lines... I also heard that Saverok can be converted to good?

4) There is an illithiad (sp) layer in the sewers underneath the temple district. Where do you find the key to get in?

5) Is it possible to visit watcher's keep tower AFTER the beginning of TOB? ... That would allow me to take SAVEROK down there and get some serious exp points before moving on... Did I mention that SAVEROK kicks some serious ass?

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Memnoch · 02-16-2002, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Agrippina:

1) Viconia is hot. I want to have a romance with her all the way through TOB. But I heard some nasty rumors.... Like she dies? Is that true?

She can die the way any character can die. But intentional death is not in her scripting, so just look after her.

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If so, that kinda ruins my romance with Viconia idea. I also heard that she can be converted to TN. Is that also true? If so, what alignment does your char have to be?

There will be an opportunity for Viconia to change, based on your dialogue choices. Doesn't really matter what your alignment is, but obviously an evil character wouldn't want her to change.

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2) I've read on prior posts that some people do not believe that Amonen does turns LG. He does do so, after he is knighted, at least if your char is female.. I think this is due to the romance he has with you.

You're revealing a plot spoiler here, and you really should put a spoiler tag as a courtesy to people who might not have gotten to that point yet. Like this:

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Again, his alignment change will be based on dialogue choices, not on the sex of your main character.

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I also heard that Saverok can be converted to good?

Again, depends on your dialogue choices. Be good, and you never know what might happen.

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4) There is an illithiad (sp) layer in the sewers underneath the temple district. Where do you find the key to get in?

In the dungeon in the Windspear Hills, you'll fight a half-ogre named Tazok. He should have a sewer key on his body.

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5) Is it possible to visit watcher's keep tower AFTER the beginning of TOB? ... That would allow me to take SAVEROK down there and get some serious exp points before moving on... Did I mention that SAVEROK kicks some serious ass?

You can visit Watchers Keep either in SoA or in ToB.

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Thanks in advance for all your help..

Welcome to Ironworks. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Lucifer Lord of demons · 02-18-2002, 04:47 AM

well said mem but you forgot to say that vicy does not turn True Neutral but neutral good (you fool!!!(insert smilely here))

Memnoch · 02-18-2002, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by Lucifer Lord of demons:
well said mem but you forgot to say that vicy does not turn True Neutral but neutral good (you fool!!!(insert smilely here))

I didn't want to give it away. Thanks for the spoiler, mate!

Lucifer Lord of demons · 02-20-2002, 02:56 AM

No probs I work at spoilers R us anyway (insert yet another smiley)

02-16-2002, 07:45 AM	#2
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	S P O I L E R S C O M I N G . . quote: Originally posted by Agrippina: 1) Viconia is hot. I want to have a romance with her all the way through TOB. But I heard some nasty rumors.... Like she dies? Is that true? She can die the way any character can die. But intentional death is not in her scripting, so just look after her. quote: If so, that kinda ruins my romance with Viconia idea. I also heard that she can be converted to TN. Is that also true? If so, what alignment does your char have to be? There will be an opportunity for Viconia to change, based on your dialogue choices. Doesn't really matter what your alignment is, but obviously an evil character wouldn't want her to change. quote: 2) I've read on prior posts that some people do not believe that Amonen does turns LG. He does do so, after he is knighted, at least if your char is female.. I think this is due to the romance he has with you. You're revealing a plot spoiler here, and you really should put a spoiler tag as a courtesy to people who might not have gotten to that point yet. Like this: S P O I L E R . . . Again, his alignment change will be based on dialogue choices, not on the sex of your main character. quote: I also heard that Saverok can be converted to good? Again, depends on your dialogue choices. Be good, and you never know what might happen. quote: 4) There is an illithiad (sp) layer in the sewers underneath the temple district. Where do you find the key to get in? In the dungeon in the Windspear Hills, you'll fight a half-ogre named Tazok. He should have a sewer key on his body. quote: 5) Is it possible to visit watcher's keep tower AFTER the beginning of TOB? ... That would allow me to take SAVEROK down there and get some serious exp points before moving on... Did I mention that SAVEROK kicks some serious ass? You can visit Watchers Keep either in SoA or in ToB. quote: Thanks in advance for all your help.. Welcome to Ironworks. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________

02-18-2002, 04:47 AM	#3
Lucifer Lord of demons Manshoon Join Date: November 7, 2001 Location: hell Posts: 223	well said mem but you forgot to say that vicy does not turn True Neutral but neutral good (you fool!!!(insert smilely here)) __________________ When someone insults you, do not kill them there and then. It is a bad thing to do. Instead plot revenge, destroy his life, ruin him and in the end leave him to think about his fate. He\'ll understand the errors of his actions. <br /><br />\"Thaaat dooesn\'t huuuuurt!!!\"<br />(Victim of a dark elf assasin before losing his head)

02-18-2002, 04:50 AM	#4
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	quote: Originally posted by Lucifer Lord of demons: well said mem but you forgot to say that vicy does not turn True Neutral but neutral good (you fool!!!(insert smilely here)) I didn't want to give it away. Thanks for the spoiler, mate! __________________

02-20-2002, 02:56 AM	#5
Lucifer Lord of demons Manshoon Join Date: November 7, 2001 Location: hell Posts: 223	No probs I work at spoilers R us anyway (insert yet another smiley) __________________ When someone insults you, do not kill them there and then. It is a bad thing to do. Instead plot revenge, destroy his life, ruin him and in the end leave him to think about his fate. He\'ll understand the errors of his actions. <br /><br />\"Thaaat dooesn\'t huuuuurt!!!\"<br />(Victim of a dark elf assasin before losing his head)

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02-16-2002, 06:25 AM	#1
Agrippina Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 10, 2002 Location: United States of America Posts: 23	First time poster, many time reader.. Let me get right to the point. [img]smile.gif[/img] 1) Viconia is hot. I want to have a romance with her all the way through TOB. But I heard some nasty rumors.... Like she dies? Is that true? If so, that kinda ruins my romance with Viconia idea. I also heard that she can be converted to TN. Is that also true? If so, what alignment does your char have to be? 2) I've read on prior posts that some people do not believe that Amonen does turns LG. He does do so, after he is knighted, at least if your char is female.. I think this is due to the romance he has with you. 3) Saverok. I just found him in TOB. This guy kicks serious ass. Has anyone checked out his stats? DAMN. Since I like to play mage chars, I've always found myself a bit short on solid SWORD fighters to play. Since I want to romance with Viconia, having that Paly from the sewers is a bad idea (he tries to kill her). And, since I'm not an axe man (that korgan guy in the copper comet), I've found myself, relunctantly modifying Valgar to turn him into a fighter using Shadowkeeper. It bothers me to cheat, but I figure that since I could always create an identical char using a Multiplayer game, what's the difference? I'd like other people's thoughts on this. Finally, sure minsc is not bad, but I get sick of his lines... I also heard that Saverok can be converted to good? 4) There is an illithiad (sp) layer in the sewers underneath the temple district. Where do you find the key to get in? 5) Is it possible to visit watcher's keep tower AFTER the beginning of TOB? ... That would allow me to take SAVEROK down there and get some serious exp points before moving on... Did I mention that SAVEROK kicks some serious ass? Thanks in advance for all your help..

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