Can't swear my devotion to Talos

Iron Greasel · 07-29-2006, 02:18 PM

I'm doing the quest for the temple of Talos in which I have to find the thief that stole the Dawn Ring from the Lathanderites and bring it to the temple. I found Borinall, but when I talk to him, no matter what dialogue options I pick I can't say I'm a servant of Talos. I just get an option saying "I can't say the words you wish to hear" and nothing else. And as I technically *AM* a servant of Talos, it would be nice to be able to say it or at least recieve an explanation to *why* I can't say it. Any hints on what to do?

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 07-29-2006, 09:02 PM

If I might ask, what is your Reputation? That is sort of odd, and I've never had a problem doing it when playing evil... Especially playing an evil Talessian.

Dundee Slaytern · 07-29-2006, 09:41 PM

These are the following conditions,

So I ask you. Are you currently in service to Talos? Are you loyal to him and him alone? And may he strike you down if you are lying.

I assure you that I am a servant of Talos in this matter. May he strike me down if I am lying.
~~~~ ~~~~
You are either a Cleric, Fighter/Cleric, Cleric/Mage, Cleric/Thief, or a Fighter/Mage/Cleric.

Your alignment is Evil.

You have not been stripped of your position in the Talos Temple and you actually got the Talos Temple as your Stronghold at this point.
~~~~ ~~~~
I assure you that I am a servant of Talos in this matter. May he strike me down if I am lying.
~~~~ ~~~~
Your alignment is not Evil.

You have been kicked out of your Stronghold( doesn't matter which one).

Dundee Slaytern · 07-29-2006, 09:44 PM

Also, do a check on the following Global,

("Stripped","GLOBAL")

See what value is it.

Iron Greasel · 07-30-2006, 03:32 AM

I'm not a cleric, so I don't have the temple as a stronghold.

My reputation is 9 or something.

Can't find a global called "Stripped".

I'm a thief, but I chose to side with the vampires by temporarily changing my class. I worked around the potential bugs with the thief stronghold by never entering the building again. So I've been kicked out of that stronghold at least. Could that be it?

Dundee Slaytern · 07-30-2006, 03:37 AM

Well, shoot. You're not a Cleric in the first place, so that effectively cancels out the first one. Without activating the Global 'Stripped' properly, you have no chance with the second one either.

By the way, you also need to be either Good or Neutral for the second option to open up.

Reputation has no effect.

Iron Greasel · 07-30-2006, 06:37 AM

So... Am I to understand that I have done nothing wrong and the game designers simply did not expect that a non-cleric in the service of Talos might want to say he is?

Dundee Slaytern · 07-30-2006, 09:00 AM

More or less.

Iron Greasel · 07-30-2006, 11:15 AM

The sad part in this is that their deaths may have been averted with better scripting.

07-29-2006, 02:18 PM	#1
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 36 Posts: 1,701	I'm doing the quest for the temple of Talos in which I have to find the thief that stole the Dawn Ring from the Lathanderites and bring it to the temple. I found Borinall, but when I talk to him, no matter what dialogue options I pick I can't say I'm a servant of Talos. I just get an option saying "I can't say the words you wish to hear" and nothing else. And as I technically AM a servant of Talos, it would be nice to be able to say it or at least recieve an explanation to why I can't say it. Any hints on what to do? __________________

07-29-2006, 09:02 PM	#2
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	If I might ask, what is your Reputation? That is sort of odd, and I've never had a problem doing it when playing evil... Especially playing an evil Talessian. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

07-29-2006, 09:41 PM	#3
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	These are the following conditions, So I ask you. Are you currently in service to Talos? Are you loyal to him and him alone? And may he strike you down if you are lying. I assure you that I am a servant of Talos in this matter. May he strike me down if I am lying. ~~~~ ~~~~ You are either a Cleric, Fighter/Cleric, Cleric/Mage, Cleric/Thief, or a Fighter/Mage/Cleric. Your alignment is Evil. You have not been stripped of your position in the Talos Temple and you actually got the Talos Temple as your Stronghold at this point. ~~~~ ~~~~ I assure you that I am a servant of Talos in this matter. May he strike me down if I am lying. ~~~~ ~~~~ Your alignment is not Evil. You have been kicked out of your Stronghold( doesn't matter which one).

07-30-2006, 03:32 AM	#5
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 36 Posts: 1,701	I'm not a cleric, so I don't have the temple as a stronghold. My reputation is 9 or something. Can't find a global called "Stripped". I'm a thief, but I chose to side with the vampires by temporarily changing my class. I worked around the potential bugs with the thief stronghold by never entering the building again. So I've been kicked out of that stronghold at least. Could that be it? __________________

07-30-2006, 06:37 AM	#7
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 36 Posts: 1,701	So... Am I to understand that I have done nothing wrong and the game designers simply did not expect that a non-cleric in the service of Talos might want to say he is? __________________

07-29-2006, 09:44 PM	#4
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Also, do a check on the following Global, ("Stripped","GLOBAL") See what value is it.

07-30-2006, 03:37 AM	#6
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Well, shoot. You're not a Cleric in the first place, so that effectively cancels out the first one. Without activating the Global 'Stripped' properly, you have no chance with the second one either. By the way, you also need to be either Good or Neutral for the second option to open up. Reputation has no effect.

07-30-2006, 09:00 AM	#8
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	More or less.

07-30-2006, 11:15 AM	#9
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 36 Posts: 1,701	The sad part in this is that their deaths may have been averted with better scripting. __________________

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